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Anyone used these?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Robhalex, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. Robhalex

    Robhalex Engaging Member

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    Has anyone used the following pellets? What are they like? ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391500817.507917.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391500830.074463.jpg
     
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    dont no about the beasts, as a rule pointed pellets are sxxxe.....better to use a quality domed pellet.
     
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    I use pointed ones from time to time. And find them alright at the sort of distances I shoot at. I imagine any further and I'd run in to problems tho. The jumbos have me intrigued though. Looks like they have a bit of weight behind them. Worried that they may come out over 12ftlbs though.
     
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    16 grains in 177 ...that will be like chucking a brick out
     
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    I've had a tin of both the pointers are pretty poo but the monsters I thought where pretty good didn't drop of as much as I thought out of my ultra se that I had at the time and they sounded like they hit hard and left big holes in things.
     
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    Thanks man I'll probably try get a sample pack if the monsters.
     
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    How will these check out over a chrono?
    If these are commercially available does it mean they will now have to be the bench mark for setting power levels legally instead of bis mags?
    Regards Stu.
     
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    Bis mags where just a general bench mark,nothing official,was just because they are easily available but yes,I would set my power levels using the heaviest pellet I could find,a tin would last a lifetime if that's all you use them for
     
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    Exactly Matty, would be interesting to see some results though. At almost twice the weight of say an A.A Field, how would would this effect everyone's power setting if the police tests now contain them. Unless of course they are completely inefficient in pcps set up for sub 12.
    Regards, Stu.
     
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    I heard police used a couple of pellets then took an average so it will effect it if they are used...IMHO they should publish 1 pellet which they will use on every rifle they test
     
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    There Can be no set Air Gun Pellet for Testing - As all are fired different -

    As many have found that a pellet might give good results in one gun but not in a simlar make and model

    The UK Air Gun Trade have tried for Many years

    Most use Standard Air Ams pellets for All Chrono Tests - Being aware that there other pellets that will
    be more effective and offer more power and accuracy

    As stated many times UK Capable Rules are a nightmare for UK Shooters

    Down to how close the Shooter is going to set his Air Guns to the Sub 12.FP Air Rifle Rule

    BOB/R
     
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    Does this mean that if I set my rifle to use a certain pellet at close to the legal limit but another pellet could potentially be used above the limit on the same setup that my gun is infact illegal? Does the rifle have to be set up so that no pellets available on the market can be used above 12ftlbs.


    Something like if it is capable of being used above the limit it's illegal even if it never uses those pellets.
     
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    Pretty much so Rob.
     
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    Any pellet on the market could be used by the tester in any weight and head size. The law as written means you have to ensure your rifle cannot exceed 12ft lb with any of them so in theory you need to test every pellet in every head size. All this coupled with the fact that manufacturers fit AT to prevent you complying if one shows over, just because they don't want the idiots turning them up on purpose. I think if you take the wording of the law to the letter, every pcp in the country is really a part 1 firearm as all are capable of exceeding the limit with the turn of a screw as there is no difference between one putting out 20ft lb to one putting out 10ft lb hence AT. We all know the best answer is no limit in law just competition and a licence, but we will resist it on principal of we don't need one now why should we need one in the future as every time one is suggested it is as a claim to prevent crime, which we know prevents nothing. The problem with a licence will be that they will seek to make everything a part 1 or 2 dependant on the same stupid un specific muzzle energy criteria. Best case scenario then is the energy limit must not exceed that of a rim fire and all air weapons become part 2 and as most will not go anywhere near this then the only problem is the grant of a part 2 ,worst is all become part 1 and the middle ground will be an airgun licence but still stuck with the same stupid limit with no defined compliance test. Personally a defined test criteria for sub 12ft lb and no licence would be the ultimate but we won't get that without a hell of a lot of pressure at government and probably a few test cases over kinetic energy failure. After all you can't comply with the law when the manufacturers fit a device that prevents you doing so ( bit like all car speedo's being unable to read below 70mph). As you can gather this part of out firearms law annoys me as it is so purposefully vague execept for the limits.
     
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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391860443.876209.jpg heres all my tins
     
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    My hw98 was doing 11.4fpe with weihrauch ft pellets I then tried some jsb exacts
    12.8fpe aa diablo 12.6 fpe all these pellets are made in the same factory or so I have been told.
    I removed 3 power washers from the vmach kit that was fitted its now doing 10.8 with jsb exacts.

    My sfs 97kt was sitting happily at 11.4fpe tony gave me a tin of falcon accuracy plus 7.3gn
    later I tried them when the rifle was run in 12.4fpe average some shots were 860fps plus

    You really need to test your rifle I have now had 3 rifles over 12fpe.
    Some people set their walther dominators steyrs at 11.8fpe for hft I would **** myself being that close.
    Atb
    David
     
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    The Beasts will be far, far too heavy at 12ftlb - they're designed to be chucked out at 900ft/s or thereabouts ;)
     

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