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Any safe couriers to use for sending a PCP?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Beachcomber, Apr 5, 2014.

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  1. Beachcomber

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    Just confirmed with parcelforce that they will not accept PCP's.

    Does anyone know of a courier that will definitely 100% carry a PCP with no problems? Just sold one and don't want any headaches!

    Cheers.
     
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    Only option available,is RFD to RFD transfer bud.I purchased a rifle yesterday,and its going to my RFD on tuesday.I am also selling a rifle,and will have to do the same,when it goes.We will all be shooting springers this time next year...lol
     
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    Only other option is to send it and keep quiet as to exactly what it is.
    That is far from the best idea though as if it is lost or damaged you will then have to admit what it really was and you won't get any sort of payout as they don't knowingly carry air weapons.
     
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    Confirmed with who? Parcelforce depot or at the post office????
     
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    Howdo mate, sending you a pm ................

    Ichabod.
     
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    Who does the RFD use?
     
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    hello, i thought parcel force did?? but now not Royal Mail? need to post a rifle myself soon Co2 jobby. of course without a capsule.
     
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    Unless something has changed, the answer to this age old question is that no couriers will knowingly accept airguns from private individuals, other that Parcel Farce.

    From their webshite:


    Further:


    So according to the above you can send a sub-12ftlb rifle, providing you only use Express 48 and inexplicably don't expect additional compensation should the meatheads wreck or lose it for you :rolleyes:

    However.. the conditions on their site also state:

    Note that this is Parcel Farce Worldwide, not the domestic variant, but some idiot may be misinterpreting the clause of pressure vessels. Also I've heard of stuff being diverted and destroyed for having compressed gas content - namely CO2 pistols. The prohibition of PCPs might have been due to the fact that they contain an integral pressure vessel, although this doesn't appear to be specifically prohibited on their site.

    Tbh as with most the staff often don't appear to know their arses from their elbows (to be fair PF seem to move the goal posts a lot); our case is probably prejudiced further by the army of old, potentially anti-gun women who staff many Post Orifice counters (although to be fair those at my local are mostly pretty good).


    To clarify the trade use all the usual suspects; Parcel Farce, TNT, Fed Ex, UPS... the difference is that these carriers will all take Airguns for those with trade accounts. In addition the same, non-vetted, non-licensed drivers will be responsible for carrying firearms (yes, "proper" ones - centrefire rifles etc) for the trade, while private individuals have to jump through all the usual hoops to get an FAC and be considered to be responsible to be in posession of such guns.

    The whole issue with Parcel Farce is ridiculous and convoluted; probably as the result of those who make the rules neither knowing nor caring about the items they're asked to carry, being actively anti-gun or simply seeking to exploit the situation for their own ends (no compensation for no good reason).


    As usual we're an unfashionable minority that can be freely shat-on during the pursuit of everyone elses agendas - a situation that will probably only get worse now that the RM has been flogged off at a knock-off rate so that tosspiece Cameron's cronies can run it into the ground and asset-strip it for their own gain :mad:

    In answer to the original question, unless you want to pay through the nose for a gunshop to send it to another gunshop (potentially two sets of £25 handling fees plus the carriage charge, anyone? :rolleyes:) your only choice appears to be to send it via Parcel Farce anyway.

    You could de-pressurise it as a tip of the hat towards safety / regs (carriers will only take air cylinders if they're empty, which I suppose is fair enough), pack it well and euphamise the contents as much as possible when the nosey cow in the PO ask what's inside - "sporting equipment" is often sufficient. Familiarise yourself with the consequences of getting rumbled, ensure that the buyer knows that it's being sent at their risk and what the max compensation is should it all go wrong and cross your fingers..:rolleyes:
     
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    Mine uses TNT,but he has an account with them.From what Darrin [xtx] is going through trying to get an intrview set up
    to get an account...they wont take non account holders Rifles,thats for sure.Its the pressurised cylinder ban,empty or full thats knackering the sending of pcp rifles by RM & PF.Some one has said taking your rifle to your local PF depo for posting,by passes the x-ray scenario...true,i dont know.I cant be anoid with the hastle,after being through the Belfast return centre fiasco,so its RFD for me :)
     
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    It sounds to me like either sending through rfds now, or at your risk you may aswell use myhermes as they are cheapest and probs don't use x-rays as a result.

    I wouldn't risk it....
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    You could de-pressurise it as a tip of the hat towards safety / regs (carriers will only take air cylinders if they're empty, which I suppose is fair enough), pack it well and euphamise the contents as much as possible when the nosey cow in the PO ask what's inside - "sporting equipment" is often sufficient. Familiarise yourself with the consequences of getting rumbled, ensure that the buyer knows that it's being sent at their risk and what the max compensation is should it all go wrong and cross your fingers..:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]


    Apparently even un-pressurized cylinders that have the ability to be pressurized aren't aloud now :D
     
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    Well, that's a fine indication that whoever's in charge hasn't got a ******* clue, then :rolleyes::down:
     
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    Why don't they just say no air rifles, it would make it less deceptive as to there protocols/rules.

    I'm taking all my info from xtx Facebook update on Wednesday. He said springers, pcps, scuba tanks, the lot are a no go.
    The used market is going to suffer reasonably badly I thinks....
     
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    Probably because those making the rules haven't got a clue as usual.

    Not questioning Darrin at all, but some of that information directly contradicts the quotes from their (current) website I posted earlier.. does he give a source for his information?
     
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    No I THINK he said he had been informed (so I assume by a member of royal mail he deals with)
    People could print the current written rules out and use as a proof, but considering how long parcelforce (if they even did in the end) took to change there rules and inform there staff when they were aloud. Then I see no reason why it couldn't be the same here....

    I have a buyer for a rifle I'm selling but he wants it posted....
     
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    i see MYhermes prohibit the sending of weapons too?? so as mike (cloverleaf) P/F and put sporting goods. that was a nice HW springer mike.
     
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    I wouldn't try and find loop holes in terms, they aren't allowing airguns so, unless it's lost, they'd probs want proof of damage....
    Just my thoughts
     
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    I spoke to the Parcelforce help line and asked the operative to confirm with a manager - pressurised cylinders are a no-no.
    As for ending empty - I guess it's hard to tell is a cylinder is empty by looks alone as not all have a guage.
     
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    I ran into this just last week when I tried to order a batch of 12g CO2 capsules for the air pistol on Amazon. Got a nice price for 90 and put the order through, only to have a confirmation of despatch and then a notice of refund a couple of hours later. No correspondence or anything, they just cancelled the order.

    Tried again with another supplier but emailed them first and they wanted an extra £15 for the courier to deliver them to our (mainland) postcode. Their excuse was that Royal Mail wouldn't take them and the courier charged extra for the Highlands. (This is something that p****s us off mightily up here.)

    I checked the Royal Mail website and CO2 capsules are indeed a banned item - Why FFS? 12g of CO2 isn't going to spoil anybody's day. Not even a kilo. It's not even flammable.

    Eventually put an order in with someone on Ebay who doesn't seem to have any qualms about sticking them in the postbox...
     
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    pressurised cylinders are prohibited, always have been. How you prove it is empty is difficult, but not impossible. Most of the consignments that contain weapons are marked as "Do not send by Air Freight", and therefore are not subject to x-ray at anytime. Many of them are sent in hardcases, with combination locks fitted.. We presume the text / post the combination to the recipient..
     
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