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Anti tamper

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Andy, Mar 9, 2008.

  1. Andy

    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    Have you bought a new gun lately with anti tamper fitted, i have heard that Air arms are now fitting AT shear bolts to the breach housing. :down:
    Has anyone got the above to confirm this.
     
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    well i have a good friend that has just bought one lately,and he was informed from the gun shop that what you have just said is true,lets be truthefull hear if any one with any knolege of guns wanted to tamper with the old models it was very easy to do.not that i condone it ,but it was easy.
     
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    I read something year's (2-3years) ago abt this, that this would happen, l think it was in air gunner mag...cant remember, it was something to do with stopping the power being turned up...l though bk then it wouldn't happen, because if you cant turn it up....on the other hand you cant turn it down, as the gun begins to wear in...so more cost to us as the gun will have to go to a gunsmith:down:
     
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    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    The security screws are ok because you can buy the drivers almost any ware nowadays.
    But the shear bolts is taking the p**s.
    It is the owners responsibility to make sure the gun stays within the law, i think even gunsmiths will refuse to work on them so it will be back to the factory.
    Even guns that are been sent to Air arms for servicing are coming back with anti tamper fitted. :mad:
     
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    I've gotten a new S410 and YES...it has a shear bolt.
     
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    thats why police put speed cams up cos people don't stay in the law:mod::frusty::frusty::frusty: as 4 the anti-pamper its a joke:jaw::jaw:
     
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    Err ... am I missing something here ... why would you want to turn the power up if this breaks the law? :confused:
     
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    I am in the motor trade,and they put these shear bolts on steering locks and a few other bits and bobs.If they are accessible believe me it doesn't take long to remove them !!!.I believe it should be everybody's right to strip and service there own rifles if they wish.A large amount of rifles are being sent back to Air Arms because they are being sent out of the factory very underpowered.This must be keeping them busy.I bet it doesn't take them long to remove the bolts ;)
     
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    ok lads anti tamper is with us my 2 year old rapid s type is fitted with a plate at the rear of the action so you can not adjust the power . word is the police approached all air gun makers and told them to do this or they would push harder for a ban on our sport .where do you stand in the eyes of the law if you remove your anti tamper and your gun is running at 11.5 if checked . i have been informed if you did that and you power adjuster wheel or allen key adapter was able to turn the gun up past 12fpe energy you are in big trouble any one else heard simillar
     
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    Anti tamper.

    Andy, are we just talking Pre charged guns here?
     
  11. simply james

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    i had one of the first theoben rapid7s when they first come out many years ago,it was just a allen key to turn the power right up with a few simple things done to take it up to fac power,it is tempting for the young ones ,but to be truthefull if you dont hace a fac is it worth loosing your rifle your shoot a big fine and a criminal record,i dont think so 12lb is enough to dispatch most quarry thats on the airgunners list,and as some one else has said its as easy to do to a spring gun but whats the point,better safe then sorry you hear some right bodge jobs people looking for power ,if you need more power get a fac properly go down the right channel,me my self i take all the things i want with a standard gun and ive been shooting for42 years .
     
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    I think it's not so much the power, but more where you place your shot.
     
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    if you know what you are doing you don't need to touch the anti-tamper on a rapid to get it over 12ft/lb,so i my eyes its a joke .the reason why
    they put them on is to keep the:mad: government :mad:departments happy
     
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    what i am trying to say is right you have an old style rapid which i have had in the past and every one i have had would creep up well ove 12 fpe just with use but you could knock it back down to just bellow 12fpe which is enough power for myself . so you can not do this if it happens with a one with anti tamper fitted .so with an old style rapid you set the power at 11.5 but a copper puts in an allen key and finds it can go over 12fpe you are up sh..t creek is i right or wrong
     
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    I would say TC that as the law stands at the moment,they have no authority to adjust the power settings of anybody's gun.If you had a power adjuster on the outside,like some export models then yes this might be the case :(
     
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    My S410 is abt 5 years old now, and l have alway been able to tweek mine
     
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    well lads i have heard if yor power adjuster works on your gun and its possible to use it to go over 12 fpe your in trouble
     
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    i agree with top cat,you will always get one akward copper who will want to tinker with your gun,but if your on your shooting land then it is he who is tresspassing,as ive stopped police before from entering private land they have no right to be on,airguns have that much bad press that if some one phones the police saying some one is using a airgun they will turn out straight away,if you phone to say you have been burgled,they say we will get some one out as soon as we have some one available ,airguns always get the police interested its a fact.
     
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    Wrong....because my S410 REG'ED FAC:up:
     
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    Explain andy it might be ok for you having a fac but what i said came from a good source
     

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