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Another money saving tip

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by The Bailiff, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. The Bailiff

    The Bailiff Busy Member

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    Well guy's as some of you know i trained and qualified as a charter skipper and now i have got to go back and work to fund the money to put my own boat in the water.
    So i made the decision to go back and work on the club door's, so i have been for the last two day's sitting my course for my sia door licence.
    Anyway to cut a long story short i was talking today with one of the lads on my course about getting a lightweight pair of boots for working the door and previously i had always worn Magnum tactical boot's as they were like wearing slippers but very strong and also the preferred boot for the old bill if they buy there own!.
    These boots can cost around £50 to £60 but this guy today showed me this boot for £23 and they are the mutt's Nut's so if you want a nice pair of light but strong hunting boots have a look at the Niton999 website and look at there own brand of Tac Boot, They look very similar in every way to the magnums but at less than half price.
     
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    sweet. Let us know how you get on with them...


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  3. Guvnor RBM

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    Ive been threw many a pair of high topped mangnums :D

    But yeah please let us know how you get on
     
  4. simply james

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    i done that for 25 years mate,how old are you and do you intend to do night clubs or bars,most of the people i worked with either went in to taxi drivers or security when they left the doors,good luck with it mate
     
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    I did the doors for about 5 years then got my level 4 sia, did a fair bit aboard over in Eastern Europe with the Casino's then due to a non work relate head injury ended up in the office :(

    I now work for a IT firm that supply the gambling trade with there hardware/software.

    I really really miss the doors, it was poor money at times, dangerous and unrewarding but the friends made, the stories you can tell and what the hell, playing the white knight from time to time is great for the karma :)
     
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    I am 35 James and prior to doing my skippers ticket had been on the club doors in Brighton for over 10 years so pretty much a veteran of the clubs already.
    With the way work is at the mo' i needed to get back to it because to a certain extent it pays well and is probably the best thing to do because the security industry is thriving at the moment, because of the new licence there's plenty of work around.:D
    Found out today that there are 350,000 doormen in the UK and since the introduction of the SIA licence 14,000 had licences refused or revoked.:eek:
    Just got my two exams left tomorrow and that's it.:thumb:
     
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    good luck:):up:
     
  8. simply james

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    good luck with it ferreter,the licensing come in to newcastle after my late boss viv graham was killed in a gangland shooting in newcastle,its a good thing in a way as before hand you didnt know who was working the doors and if anything bad happened no one new what number the person was on the door,or if they should of been working the door at the time and what convictions they had,i worked the doors before the badge was in legistation,and now all doormen have a lot more to do with the police,and the police can govern who works and who doesnt,good luck with it mate
     
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    Christ, I thought working in livestock was dangerous,more fool me!!:eek:
    Still, at least they dont puke on you as they try to kick you in the ********!.
    Tough job you have theyre lads,but the clubs are a hell of a lot safer having guys like you watching over them,fair play to you mates:up::up::)!.
     
  10. simply james

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    ive the scars and the wounds of working the doors for twenty five years,from false nails inbeded in my neck to a stilettoe heel in the back of the head,and thats just the ladies,its all part of the job if you work as a team you still get injured but not as much,its a good job and the wages are a lot better now,singe the badge come in to force ,in the olden days the wages were crap ,the big market which is at the centre of the life in newcastle,is one of the busiest places ive ever worked,i worked for a few weeks in manchester in the cloth market i think its called,were a lad come up here to the north east and i went down there to see what the difference was in different towns,manchester was a far worse place at the time then newcastle,look up tyneside and viv graham in newcastle on you tube and the likes ,and you will get a good idea of what doormen went through in the 90s,a few were shot leaving work bye a others who wanted the industry and the control of the doors to them selves,do i think the badge is a good thing yes it is for a good few reasons,but me im glad i left that life behind you make a lot of enemies ,you have to be able to deal with some one ranting in your face what there going to do with your kids and family,ive had it all been there got the tea shirt,now i enjoy the quite life
     
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    Good Luck with the new job. I worked the doors for 26 years up until I got ill last year and had to retire. I was front door up till I was 53.

    I don't agree with the new badge system. Years ago our strength was our annonimity but as things must progress they introduced a local council badge, that was ok. Now there is the National Badge it means the security firms can cap wage figures. Only recently did I hear that guys working the same club I did are working for £8.50 an hour. I was on £13 last year!

    Now, they can ban you from working if they see reason, thats a National Ban!

    I hope you find a good team mate
     
  12. simply james

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    yeh i see where your coming from in some places mate,but you have to do something very naughty to get a national ban,after all your there to protect the public,so if you have done something really bad you cant be put in a position of trust can you
     
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    Your're right mate the new SIA licence is an absolute ripoff i have just had to pay £415:00 for my training and licence and i could'nt believe that some of the training that we had with the local authority licence we don't get anymore with the SIA for example we no longer get first aid or fire training!
    I am lucky because i hold all my first aid from doing my skippers ticket but before the whole door team were trained.
    I found the whole SIA thing like sucking egg's and the fact that they are training the doormen now with no level of self defence i think the SIA are very nieve if they think these lads on the door find a talking down solution to every incident, there are time's when all other means have been exhausted and you have to get control.
    I just feel that nobody wants to be accountable for when this happens and by not training these lads the risk is a lot higher of something going wrong.
    And you say there are guy's working for £8:50 an hour near you?:eek: what's all that about? When i started on the doors 15 years ago i was being paid £10 ph then!.
     
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    The wages I was on 4 years ago was £14+ Ph...


    But I used to teach the SIA course, what a load of ********.... never even mentions the word "drunk" in the course work...
     
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    Nope and that's a joke on it's own when it's illegal for someone being drunk on licenced premises and they define drunk as someone that has lost all self control, you would think someone would of spotted that before it get's to that stage eh!
    There drunk and you're trying to tell them the party's over, it never seems to go down very well for some reason!:confuzed:
     
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    thats what they call a doormans lot ,dealing with roudy customers after time is called,yep have fun chaps its a hard lot to take on,and the licensing people are the ones who go home happy
     
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    Respect to you guys,someone gets in my face I blow red and the ****** goes down,period!. I once contemplated doing doors at the weekends before the badge thing came into force but me missus said I didnt have the temperment cos I go off pretty quick:eek:,used to do the doors at my local pub for two summers but that was pretty timid,cos I knew everyone and where they lived if there was trouble;).
     
  18. simply james

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    yeh ian im glad im out of that game,you get to know the same old worky tickets week in and week out,its a young mans game now and as i said it is a good job and you meet loads of interesting people
     
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    just cant do it james mate,tried to be the controlled doorman, but when the feet start flying pal, I resort to my Ashie Hara,tae kwon do training.
    Ie (bang bang,you know what I mean pal;)!!).
    Cant do doors now cos I cant be arsed dealing with pissheads any more nicely:eek::eek:!.
     
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    im the same now ian ,i cant be bothered with all the hassle,but good luck to to the lads that are doing it
     

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