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Another lightweight ...

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by scoobymad555, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. scoobymad555

    scoobymad555 Newbie

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    Hi peeps,

    New here on the forum ... after some advice if people don't mind -

    Looking for a lightweight all-rounder to use mainly for target & ft but capable for hunting if I ever get the stomach to catch my own dinner!

    Already have an hw97kt blackline .22 which I'm not going to part with but it's a bit too front heavy for me to use off-hand.

    Have narrowed the list down to two rifles which are chalk and cheese - the daystate regal and the fx verminator mk2 (ideally with the long barrel). The daystate just looks the part but the fx has it's own appeal plus being a take-down also makes it a lot less obvious when I'm walking to and from my car with it. Despite technically living in the countryside (Hertfordshire) people still get twitchy over guns.

    Can anyone offer advice regarding accuracy and reliability of the two and if there's any others I should be considering please? - don't want to part with that sort of money and end up with a lemon!!!

    Cheers all :)
     
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    FT capable and a hunter is not the most easy to accommodate combination. Any gun can do both but not many are ideally suited to both. Now HFT and hunting is a different matter and many great hunting rifles make good hft rifles (HW100, aa400 variants and many of the daystate range). Cant comment on the verminator but would only say shoot as many as you can because the two different disciplines mean you want a rifle that really feels right, and hopefully you will think it looks nice too:) I shoot an HW100 so everyone will tell you looks are not at the top of my agenda but then my rifles so ugly it makes me look like george clooney:D
     
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    The Daystate Regal is nice..but I wouldn't want to take it hunting..an alternative would be an Air Arms S400,on par with the rifles you've listed but a bit cheaper.
     
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    For fear of scratching/damaging
     
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    Ah yes I do get a little concerned about damaging the lovely stock but if I did it would be regarded as a war wound.
     
  7. vitalich

    vitalich Keyboard Hero

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    chesk my DIY bullpups - lighter than any brococks and great for offhand shooting
     
  8. scoobymad555

    scoobymad555 Newbie

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    Hey guys

    Thanks for the replies!

    Ozzy - take your point and you are right! I guess I'm working on the basis that a rifle I can shoulder easily and be accurate with (my abilities being the controlling factor!) but also be able to use all day without feeling like I've been in the gym for 6hours straight is the one I'll do well with! I suspect ultimately it'll be the huntsman that I settle on as it does seem to tick all the boxes for me ... I guess I'll just have to pick up a second hand tdr to scratch that itch another time lol!

    Matty - yeah I'm kinda worried about marking her up too hence the other part of the tdr appeal but as meteor says - that'd be a battle scar to demonstrate she's earned her place in the rack rather than being a cabinet queen! ;)

    Vitalich - there's something about bullpups I'm not convinced by to be honest mate. Curiosity will no doubt see one in the collection at some point but I'm not sure I'll get on with it or that it's going to be particularly good for punching card or tin - can kind of see the benefit in dense woodland for hunting but even then a lot of carbines aren't that much longer these days and the inherent issues with scope setups on the bullpups at close quarters would probably sway me away. Can't help thinking you'd have a neck ache by the end of the day too! Lol!
     
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    Welcome along,
     
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    The Air Arms Superlite S400 in .177 would do all you need. Very light, smart and accurate.
     
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    Fx verminator 2400 gram
    regal 2800 gram
    HW100 KS 3300 gram but with A&M cylinder it will be 3000 gram which is not that different from rgal.
    now you need to think about what scope you want. Dome people goes for lightweight gun then put very heavy scope on top.
     
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    bet me to it ! try the karbine in this before you part with your hard earned mate. nothing against the daystate (i would love one), but you could get the s400, scope and silencer for the price of the ds
     
  13. Akita177

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    For hunting id look at second hand rifles, if your shooting offhand and love springers give a HW95 with heavie silencer and HW99 a test.
    With my HW97kt synthetic stock ive putting plumbing putty/mait in the back of the stock to balance the rifle out, works bloody great but the rifle is heavier.
    I used the stuff from screwfix £4 for 750gram tub which just a bit more then needed to fill the whole rear section of the stock.
     
  14. scoobymad555

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    Thanks for the suggestions guys! :)

    Hunter - must admit I hadn't realised the hw100 was as light as that with the ally cylinder - might have to look closer at that ... do like the weihrauchs :)

    Andy & Steve - have looked at the s400 ... it's possibly a 'marmite' stock but I really like the superlite deluxe as it happens!

    Akita - thought had crossed my mind of trying to counter balance the 97 as it happens plus putting a sling on it is supposed to help but being a .22 it's not necessarily ideal for target shooting although I'm sure I'll give it a spin at some point just for giggles! Actually do have a 95 too (got it for the missus) but just don't 'click' with it for some reason *shrug*.

    The cost isn't really an issue for me to be honest (not trying to sound like a ****) - have an ev2 mk4 that I'll be selling to pay the lions share of the new rifles costs (again, just didn't 'click' with it - fantastic rifle no doubt but just didn't flick the I want to keep it switch lol) so it's more about just finding the one that's 'right' if that makes sense? - I don't mind spending the money so long as it fits the bill ... I draw the line at forking out for a steyr or fwb though lol! :D
     
  15. Akita177

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    The plumbers putty works great just easily push it down the rear of the stock with a wooden rod or a stick, the rear of the stock is completly hollow just unscrew the butt pad, the putty doesnt smell and it is not setting so you could scoop it back out.
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/plumber-s...tracking url&gclid=CNSnqM_Zw7wCFUj4wgod0B4AFg

    I have to get a custom butt/recoil pad as the one fitted to the synth stock is the worst one ive ever come across no grip and its flat in shape it really is crap and unexceptable on a HW springer made worst by the gun being front heavy and the pad not holding in your shoulder.
     
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  16. scoobymad555

    scoobymad555 Newbie

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    Was planning on experimenting with plasticine to start with if I'm honest lol! Already had the butt off and fitted a bisley adjustable myself as it happens so I've seen inside the stock. The adjustable made a huge difference for me as it happens - lengthened the stock out back into my shoulder properly and raised the comb much closer to where I want it - instant change in accuracy!
     

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