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Almost there, I think. A little more help please.........

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by johnny8977, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. johnny8977

    johnny8977 Engaging Member

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    Evening chaps.

    I've been trying to sort NV out for months, doing a bit here and there. I've got myself a Sony camcorder nicely mounted to my scope and did have a IR laser attached. But I found the beam just too narrow to be of any use - it was a right faff to 'zero' it so got rid, although looking back I should have bought a proper scope mount for it and tried that first. ANyway, what are people's recommendations for the cheapest useful IR illumination? It will be on a Rapid 7 for rabbits mainly so only needs to be useful out to 50 yards max.

    I have tried reading loads but the tendency is for some posts to get rather technical very quickly. I've no engineering or electrical knowledge. I have seen Youtube videos of people using a normal high powered hunting lamp fitted with some IR perspex. I do have a Ledray GL4 scope mounted torch but I read that even with a filter the amount of IR thrown out won't be enough.

    Any suggestions greatly appreciated, to finally get me the kick up the backside to finish and get shooting again. Apologies because I know there are loads of similar threads, and I have read loads, but still not convinced I know what to buy. I'd be happy to buy from DX and swap some lenses or bulbs if that would work, but do the Sony camcorders need something more powerful?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    The problem with camcorders is they need so much ir it becomes a burden,hence why the more concentrated beam of a laser works best with them
    Your best bet if you want to go the cam-c route is to look for a 2nd hand pulsar l808,not the new 's' version but the now discontinued l808....provided it's in it's original state,this is probably the cleanest laser in the £150-£200 range new
    2nd is the n1000ap which is also sold under another guise,new price £150 odd

    Your second route is to build your own using a cctv cam which will be alot more sensitive to ir light therefore meaning you need less ir.
     
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    hi I am sure you have viewed the vids on odics webb site, ring johnathan and ask him which laser he sold to cubbley cat featured in video, she recorded said video, the cheap £27 ish one has a not to good light pattern they are full of bars and dimples and give an oblong view, the one on cubbys vid is pretty clean and variable, at I think about £37 follow link to odic in informatio on vid
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQQJPAkpI-M
    after watching vid scroll down and click on show more for links
     
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    For £35 plus P&P, that seems the ticket.
     
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    If you're going to stick with the camcorder, I would either try the Ultrafire 501B/aspheric lens/1W IR P60 module combo or a focusable laser like you are discussing.

    Although I haven't tested this IR laser yet, its worth a look and its focusable and 500mW so it should be plenty powerful.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/808nm-500mW...le-/110885458739?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

    The reason I haven't tested it yet is because I have a Watec setup with the Ultrafire/aspheric lens/custom P60 Oslon Black module and its good out to 200 yards so I haven't spent the time to test it.

    If you wanted to try the Ultrafire with a custom Oslon Black IR LED, you can order one from the guy at customlites.com for about $50US. He doesn't have it listed yet on his site so you will have to call or e-mail him specifically requesting the Oslon Black.
     
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    Forget using a 501/502b with a camc,done that,ok for about 25 yds max,to get any further with led and camc your looking at the taclight 800ir or dearlight as it's often referred to,spending that kind of money you might as well go for the cleaner laser's like the n1000/ap or l808 and get better results
    Or ditch the camc for a watec setup.
     
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    Are the WATEC setups the ones with the small cctv type screen fitted? I know there are loads of threads but they all seem a bit rambling to follow. Can anyone point me in the direction of a easy to follow start to finish thread/page for buying and assembling one of these?
     
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    Here's a few threads that might help.

    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums...-don-t-like-making-stuff?highlight=easy+watec
    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/131006-watec-info-thread
     
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    this is what Jonathan said to me regarding the bad image while using a IR laser

     

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