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Alkanet Oil?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Bradley Worthington, Oct 14, 2021.

  1. Bradley Worthington

    Bradley Worthington Engaging Member

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    Hey!

    Does anyone rate Alkanet Oil? I don't see many using it on their stocks, and content online in relation to the use of such oil is hard to come by apart from the odd thread or video.

    Cheers.
     
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    I use it and really like the finish that you can achieve, have used it on beech and walnut with no detrimental effects.
    It’s a slow procedure but we’ll worth tolerating. 15F61899-5CEC-40D1-8987-B404D9574870.jpeg C36A73D1-47E9-413C-916B-8D622D290988.jpeg 8CC5E177-9398-45B8-B38F-FDE486F2272E.jpeg 29FC1F04-A9FE-4E9F-84F4-EA74EBCA4958.jpeg 10CEFE18-F194-49AA-B6B3-7EA3FDF81B5E.jpeg 667C84A3-02DC-4B98-8143-275825E70923.jpeg 1D7FADBB-CF1F-4D06-9EB0-FB1C57EAA38B.jpeg
     
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    Desmond.22 'All round good egg'

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    Yeah I've used couple times I've only used on walnut so can't comment on other woods.

    Different makes have different strengths so be cautious as to how dark you want your stock to go.

    For my cs600 pictures below I wanted real dark so went with 5 coats of the slippery dicks (strongest I've used)

    But for my tx wanted little lighter so used the red kite and less coats.

    Also I've found the first coat will give you 90% of the colour then other coats just enhance this but are less effective/altering the more you use.

    Think @mikeyhall1 sells it too and when I need some more I'll get from him.

    Pics show before and after with the cs600

    photo_2021-05-04_01-55-09.jpg photo_2021-05-04_01-54-15.jpg
    And the tx200
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  5. Tim_B

    Tim_B Major Poster

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    Ive used it as part of red kite oil and it worked fine. Never used it on its own though.
     
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    Ste.v.a All round good guy ( so I'm told )

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    Love the tx stock mate :thumb:. I used Mikey hall's alkenet oil on my 400 stock and it come out lovely :thumb:
     
  7. busanga

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    how do you use alkanet. is it more of a dye type of deal ?
     
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    Dr B Grizzly Airgunner

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    I've used it in the past and always been pleased with the result. ;).
     
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    Desmond.22 'All round good egg'

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    That's how I've used it

    Strip stock and prepare fully then use the alkanet oil until you get your colour.

    Then switch to ccl or equivalent again @mikeyhall1 does this I think.
     
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    Dam,:facepalm: could have just bought the one bottle and not dye and Danish oil!! forgot all about that stuff :facepalm:
     
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    I use it, it's more of a stain that brings out colour than an oil. Once you have the colour you want use something else on top (I like trade secret rapid oil but linseed oil, truoil or tung oil all work).
     
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    Dr B Grizzly Airgunner

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    Never use Danish on walnut. :)
     
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    It’s beech, but I didn’t know that :thumb:
     
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    i have seen walnuts used on a hot danish before though
     
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    mikeyhall1 BRIT SEALS - M & M Products - TbT

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    Alkanet Oil whilst BLO based is designed with 1-2 coats to give a reddish brown colour to the light grain whilst pulling out the darker grain to increase the figure and detail of the wood.

    This is brushed on and left overnight to do it’s thing and if required a second coat maybe completed.

    Further coats are often futile as the wood will unlikely take anymore colour.

    Due to application & long wet time (to soak in) it’s not really the best oil to use as a finishing oil. Best to get your colour and use a finishing oil over the top.
     
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    mikeyhall1 BRIT SEALS - M & M Products - TbT

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    Have to say really impressed with @Desmond.22 ’s finishes. Nice work.
     
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    Alkanet oil, doesn't have any driers in it and isn't really suitable as a finish.
    You use it, to bring out dark figure in the wood and to give that traditional 'reddish' hue that you find on the top London guns.

    This stock is wet with the oil but you can see the red color.

    IMG_20210717_133003.jpg

    This is the finished stock.
    Not sure why the images are sideways!

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    Thank you for the input and the images. I currently use Old English Walnut Oil. I assume this would have to be stripped using a solvent and rag?
     
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    Depending on the finish, it may come off with surgical spirit and a cloth, if it isn't too deep.

    Next up would be some acetone (nail polish remover), give it a good scrub then wipe off.

    If that removes most if it, great.

    You can also gently heat the wood, to leech the oil out. This can be useful, if you notice marks that keep reappearing after sanding.
    Its usually gun oil that has soaked into the wood, heat it with a hair dryer or (carefully!) over a gas flame and wipe it away.

    If you want to use alkanet oil, dont sand the stock higher than P400 grit, otherwise it's hard to get the oil in.
    Once you are happy with the colour, if you want to fill the grain quickly (but properly), sand in your finishing oil with P600 grit until it builds a slurry, then wipe it off across the grain.
    Do that a few times, then start your finish.

    Sorry, rambled on a bit there!

    This was just acetone and a scrub, standard factory finish, very thin.
    Turkish walnut (my personal clays gun).

    IMG_20210206_113332.jpg
     

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