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Airgun help please

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Kyska, Jun 1, 2014.

  1. Kyska

    Kyska Honorary Member

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    Need some expert advise from the Agf massive.

    I want to invest on an Airgun, I found an Aa S310, must of been my father in laws, I don't want a pcp, I can't be arsed buying all the kit for it.

    I have no idea how much they worth, but I'm looking to swap it for a springer I think.

    Any ideas of what it's worth, and what I should get?

    Id been speaking to someone off of here about a swap for a S1 theoben, but thinking about it, if it's sub 12 my daughter can shoot it too.

    Its mainly for rats and ferals around the farm yard, for the life of me I cant get a reliable shooter to do this, so I'll have a go.

    Any info would be really appreciated.

    K
     
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  2. Egg

    Egg Major Poster

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    If the choice was between a gasram and a springer then - purely IMO - a springer would be the better, low maintenance way to go - HW95 [edit - HW95 lightest of the lot taking your daughter as a prospective varminter into account], HW80, HW97/77k would be my first choices.

    As to price for an S310 - not sure bud: £300 as a ballpark figure depending on condition.
     
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  3. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Aye, gun only in good nick I'd say around 250-£300 - perhaps a little less. It's hard to tell without more info on age / calibre / condition etc.

    In other news - ffs keep it! "All the other gear" for a PCP is simply a pump or bottle - around £80-90 will get you a decent used example (please ask if you want some guidance), and cylinders have recently come down in price fairly substantially (a new 3L 300 bar MDE setup can be had for £120-140).

    At the end of the day the PCP is a far more efficient and competant tool for pest control than a springer. The one you've got is multishot (so offers the potential for a fast second shot if necc. without moving your eye from the 'scope), plus PCPs are usually more accurate / forgiving to shoot, lighter, quieter and ultimately far easier, faster and less conspicuous to reload (less movement).

    The S310 lacks some of the refinements of the later S410, but is a good, solid working gun that's easy to work on and should last forever.

    IIRC you're into your firearms; tbh I find a lot of firearms shooters who can't be arsed with springers get on a lot better with PCPs as the interface is more familiar and they're generally better at hitting the target.. get some air in it and try it ;)
     
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    I got a fac .22 eliminator if thats any good to you ?
     
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    As much as my heart says to get a HW springer, my head agrees with Cloverleaf and says to buy a three / four stage pump and stick with the S310. Multi-shot, easy to cock, pretty much bomb-proof, quiet etc etc.
     
  6. RichieRich

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    I would say stick with it too, however, if you still want to sell on, i have a TX200 available if that floats your boat?

    I would suggest maybe looking at Gun* website to get an idea of S/H prices?
     
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    :eek: i'm shocked you can't find anyone.....ahem....:eek: i know someone who's just lost a permission and on the hunt for another permission that they can shoot with their brother , basc insured :D
     
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    I agree with everyone that says 'keep it',there's nothing worse than reloading in the dark whilst the perfect shot scurrys away:D a s/h pump and Bob's yer uncle a pcp setup for under a hundred quid:)
     
  9. Kyska

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    Ok, I'll take the advice from the experts, what do I need to buy? I don't want a compressed air cylinder, to hard to get refilled where I am, what pump do I need?

    how many shots will I get once I've blown it up?
     
  10. cloverleaf

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    Yay :p

    Not that I like their rifles much, but I prefer the FX pumps - they're well put together and appear well-designed.

    I'd go for the cheaper three-stage pump (the four-stage has a valve to increase the mechanical advantage during pumping, but you'll only be filling the gun to 190bar so you shouldn't really need that facility). Some also rate the Hills items; I'd certainly steer clear of any of the cheaper brands (BSA / newer Webley / Gunpower).

    The FX pumps have been going for years - I have a 10yr old example (Logun badged) that's not needed to come to bits yet; that said it doesn't get a massive amount of use. FX items were also sold under the Webley and RWS brands (amongst others) in the old days; and can be identified by their fairly distinctive foot plate and valve block shape, as well as their grips.

    If the female fill adaptor (the bit that goes on the pump's hose) isn't with the gun you'll need one of these too.

    Depending on calibre you should get 60-80 good shots from the S310 - more if it's well setup.

    The only word of caution I'd give is that the S310s have Nylon (white) exhaust valves - these aren't susceptable to creep (and associated loss of muzzle energy) like the later (black) replacements. Nylon doesn't like moisture (filling with a pump killed the valve in my S410) but I doubt you'll be using it as much as I did and the odd inspection for degradation wouldn't go amiss :)
     
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    Start a new thread for this please ;)
     
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    :D..........:up:
     
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    I would think a three stage pump would do fine,I picked up a hills pump before Christmas for £60 off the forum and I even pump up my r10 with it no problems.for some reason I use the pump more than my 12l bottle don't know why?
     

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