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AirArms S400 versus BSA Ultra

Discussion in 'Airgun Reviews' started by andyh, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. andyh

    andyh Engaging Member

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    I recently obtained an AA S400 in .22 cos I've really fancied seeing what this rifle is all about. I got a really tidy one through the forums for sale section and have now given it a good workout along with my Ultra .177.
    Having shot both now and put some 500 pellets through each, I cannot say one is more accurate than the other, they really are that close. Excellent groups at 30meters from both rifles and both very consistent with no fliers using AA pellets in both.
    The S400 is as you all know is well engineered and finished as is the Ultra. Both have decent woodwork as standard with more options available to the S400 series regards different style stocks. These are very different rifles the Ultra being a carbine and the S400 being a truer rifle. The S400 is heavier giving a bit more stability than the Ultra but this to my mind really isn't an advantage when comparing the two. The S400s' bolt action does seem a little stiff, maybe that's my rifle, having to give a very hard pull to cock it. The Ultra's fore end action is much easier to cock, both are similar when loading a pellet, the Ultra has finger touch breech opening which requires only a light touch to open the breech. Of the two I do prefer the Ultra for it's ease of use when shooting because the process of reloading results in minimal movement compared to a traditional breech loading action.
    You get more shots per fill out of the S400 than the Ultra but I don't really think that matters to much. About 80 from the S40 and around 40 for the Ultra. The S400 has a pressure gauge and the Ultra doesn't, I do prefer to have the gauge than not. One is not easier to fill than the other so that doesn't come into it as far as I'm concerned.
    As I have stated before, quite a few times really, the standard Ultra silencer isn't very special and I believe there are plans by BSA to address this problem, at lest that was what I heard in my local gun shop. My S400 came with an AA silencer and I was disappointed with it and have changed this to a Weihrauch one, much quieter.
    The S400 off the shelf is around £370 and the Ultra is around the £260 mark, if you have a budget to stick to then the £100 odd saving buys you a decent scope.
    To conclude my review I'd say that there really is very little to choose between the two rifles and if I had to choose one I would choose the Ultra as I find I really get on well with it prefering the lighter weight and for me I find it a much easier rifle to use for my needs.
    Hope you enjoyed the read :up:
     
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    nice one:up:

    i like the 400 because its in .22:p

    kidding. a well 2 guns are better than one:D
     
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    400 for me as i have 400 and ultra

    but i do like my rapid:up:
     
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    Nice Review Andy.Good read.:):up::).
     
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    :up::DVery good review buddy....Let us know how you get on, with longer ranges, as I believe the AA show its superiority;):D
     
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    Sugar its a .22 not so sure now:confused:
     
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    you were right the 1st time:D
     
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    Andyh

    Nice review, but for me at least i would have to go for both of them, well build ,accurate, reliable, fair price and BRITISH:D:up:
     
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    I'll be having a crack at about 45 meters tops in my garden, I'll post when I've got something concrete. I would have preferred the S400 in .177 :rolleyes: but thats' something for another day.
    Thanks for reading my review and I'm pleased so many of you rate the British manufacturers and for all your comments. :up:
     
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    is the Ultra a multishot? I have never got on with the BSA magazines, they always jam for me. Air Arms are bril though!
     
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    Andyh hasnt been on in ages:confused:

    shame sound bloke
     
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    thanks for the write up.

    Start of next year I'm looking to replace my 97K with either an Ultra or S400. At the moment the S400 is winning for me as I intend to FAC it so I feel the slightly longer barrel may help with longer range accuracy.

    After handling them at the weekend I was amazed how light they are in comparison....a real plus if your drudging about all day.
     

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