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Air rifle power increase

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by mattgriff88, May 8, 2014.

  1. mattgriff88

    mattgriff88 Busy Member

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    Hi,

    I have a slot on my firearms certificate for a Air rifle.
    I have a daystate air ranger .22 under 12ftlb and would like the power increased and put on my ticket.

    I asked daystate how much they charge and was told £300 plus postage costs which I think is a bit excessive.

    I have seen a few tutorials on how to do this so might have a go myself.
    But I need it put on my ticket first, how do I go about doing this?

    Do I just take the gun and certificate to my local rfd and they will put the gun on the certificate for me and then I can try and adjust the power?

    Cheers
     
  2. Tripleteer

    Tripleteer Donator

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    Once you make your rifle FAC it has to stay FAC. Sorry I can't help with the power increase. atb Paul.
     
  3. r10hunter

    r10hunter Honorary Member

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    That's it.
    Just because it's on fac there is no requirement for it to be over 12ftlbs at the time entered on your fac.

    A mate of mine has his 12 ish ftlbs gun on fac just because he is not an airrifle enthusiast and can't be bothered with a chrono etc.
    Cheers Andy
     
  4. mattgriff88

    mattgriff88 Busy Member

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    How do I go about entering it on to a fac?
     
  5. terry1001

    terry1001 Major Poster

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    Some rifles have different internals for their high powered versions, it's worth checking for your rifle. You may well find it easier and cheaper to sell that one and buy another which was designed to run at higher power. You wouldn't have the issues with paperwork either.
    No doubt someone will know of any differences and/or will be able to suggest the best option.
     
  6. scoie

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    speak to your FLO first, some issuing authorities will let you put a sub 12ft/lb and turn it into a fac airrifle without the need for a RFD, other certainly wont, and vice versa some will let you turn down a fac airrifle to sub 12ft/lb and off your license others a defo no no , but get the advice from the horses mouth first
    rgds
    craig
     
  7. Elk hunter

    Elk hunter Keyboard Hero

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    It's probably worth selling your 12flb rifle as it has value. Then buy a second hand FAC version of it as the s/h value of FAC air is very low compared to standard 12 lb.

    Converting your rifle if financial suicide.saw one a well known web site at 40lb mint £650 s/h, 12lb version s/h £900 plus.

    Andrew
     
  8. mmamonster

    mmamonster Pro Poster

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    Get yourself a cheap fac air rifle and keep the daystate. Pm me i have one i dont use.
     
  9. jonesy185

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    Sell the current and buy a fac ready
     
  10. mattgriff88

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    whats the difference in price on the second hand market between fac and sub 12ftlb for a daystate air ranger?

    If I can get £900 for my air ranger s/h I would probably sell it anything less and I would probably try and uprate it to fac.
    I dont want to be putting much more money in to the gun expecially not £300.

    In total honesty it is a lovely gun but I wish I never bought it as I only go hunting and will be using the .22lr or .17hmr most of the time and can't ever see me using it.
     
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  11. harry brown

    harry brown Banned

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    Why not put the FAC air on hold whilst you enjoy using the .22LR and HMR. I honestly thought I'd have little use for sub 12 when I got my ticket, but I've changed my mind. Sub 12 is good when you are near roads or want to shoot into trees or ratting etc and virtually ricochet free. Doesn't have to be jacked up for a clean kill as we all know. I have a spare slot for FAC air and that's gonna be changed I think. You'll easily find a fairly priced FAC air at your RFD or online if you bide your time.
     
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    As well as my centre fire and rimmies I've got 18ft/lb and 30ft/lb Fac air, but I couldn't be without my sub 12 for jobs like ferals in barns etc.
     
  13. airtech

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    i myself are a rfd and have tuned many air rifles to over 12ft and entered them onto the owners fac certificate as section 1 we did a airwolf about 1 month ago tuned it from 12ft to 23ft in .177 the guy asked for a longer barrel to be made but with out the new longer barrel the cost to do the fac work and enter it onto his certificate was £130 with the longer 23" barrel the work came to £235
     
  14. r10hunter

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    Do you program them yourself ? I always thought it was a back to daystate job.
    Cheers Andy
     
  15. kermitboy1

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    I think you will find that the increase change on an Air Ranger requires a different size valve {harper p }. I was in the very same position as you, and I took the decision to sell my sub 12 A/R due having a HW100 in .177 also. I went out and bought a brand new Ranger set at 40 ft/lb in .22 and I can assure you, its an awesome rifle. I can shoot better with this rifle, than I can with my HMR. Buying new, also gives the extra bonus of having the 500cc buddy bottle. Cant imagine wanting to run one with the smaller bottle as on the sub 12's. I only get around 50 shots running on 500cc. But they are 50 very satisfying shots, I can assure you. Made good money selling my sub12, which made the cost on the fac that little bit less painful. Nothing wrong with second hand, but I just like things to be brand spankers. All in, I think I paid just shy of 1300. KB1
     

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