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Air Arms Xti50

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Jagdwaffen, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Jagdwaffen

    Jagdwaffen Suns up guns up

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    For shooter by shooter.....what do you think.....lovely looking laminate stock.


     
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    bucketboy Big Poster

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    I would prefer a black laminate but the gun certainly looks the part.

    Bb
     
  3. Jagdwaffen

    Jagdwaffen Suns up guns up

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    I agree it’s a looker ......be great to see some real life shooter reviews
     
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    mikeyhall1 2018 & 2019 Forum Nice Guy

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    Watched this earlier, I’m certainly keen to have a proper look at one.
     
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    Be careful what you wish for !
     
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  6. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    So, this is what Claire gets up to when she's not building us a break barrel!
     
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    Funny how the talk and design is all FT bases still when it's probably fair to say the more popular discipline in the UK now is HFT...

    Good looking rifle - the barrel is basically what most folks end up with on an FTP900 after modifying and I assume the use of titanium is to help further reduce weight as the FTP was a heavy lump and the adjustable hamster on this new gun look to be alloy so it's going to be weighty.
     
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    robs5230 леший

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    Looks like some thought has gone into this.

    I am surprised by the height of that scope rail though.
    I'd have thought that would give a scope height similar to a bullpup, which would in my mind only make shorter distance shots more difficult.
    Having said that, I don't shoot HFT or FT so don't know how that would affect shooters

    Anyway, now they've finished tarting about with this, they can get on with making a nice break barrel springer.
     
  9. Wofty

    Wofty 'This is the way'

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    I think they see it as the FT rifle being the pinnacle, the flagship. A HFT will be a cut down lesser version. If you were going to advertise and boast about your spanky new rifle which would you tout?
     
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    hamza Keyboard Hero

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    FT shooters typically have quite a high scope mount height. This gives a greater intersection of the POI and POA at longer ranges which tend to be the harder FT shots.

    for HFT though most shooters generally want the opposite, is the rail removable?
     
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    pbrown Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    The use of a riser for a higher scope mounting in FT is to get a more comfortable head position when shooting sitting. :up:
     
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    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    These are a minority these days and a fraction of the price of this new Xti50, so for it to be financially viable for them they would have to shift thousands, and at a price that would not allow a great deal of improvement from the TX200, so arguable no point. I'm not saying it will never happen, but I'm sure the accountants don't have it as a priority any time soon, perhaps a TX refresh though, you never know :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes I get that.
    Its the reason I choose high mounts on my rifles.

    But looking at the height of that rail (which looks "bullpup height") it would need the cheekpiece raising significantly for anyone that had a reasonably normal shaped head and corresponding neck length.

    As for the trajectory issue, there does become a point where a scope being mounted too high above a barrel actually worsens a PBR (accentuates rather than flattens the curve) so not as effective for longer shots.

    As I said I'm neither an FT or HFT shooter, but if I were buying one of these, the first thing I'd do would be ditch that rail (assuming the breech has normal dovetails.
     
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    pbrown Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Correct hence the long cheek post visible out of the bottom of the stock, don't forget FT shooters are in the main using a seated position.

    For example on an EV2.

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    It's an FT rifle and that's not relevant for FT as you're adjusting your parallax and elevation for each distance, HFT is a different matter.

    If you shot FT you would certainly be using a riser.
     
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    robs5230 леший

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    Makes sense (ish) thanks.
    I did say I don't shoot those disciplines .

    He still has risers under his mounts on that pic.
    It all just seems counter intuitive to me.
    I'll be sure to have a look round at the local club next time I'm over but I don't recall any rifles being configured like that. FT or HFT.
     
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    pbrown Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    You won't see risers on an HFT rifle. :up:
     
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  17. Air arms boy

    Air arms boy Wear sunscreen!

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    also known as cheating :p
     
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    pbrown Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Eh? You've lost me, how is raising your scope on a riser cheating?
     
  19. Air arms boy

    Air arms boy Wear sunscreen!

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    joke aimed at all the new rules us as humans invent to make things easier :D
     
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    sharpsman Keyboard Hero

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    It's all cheating , they should have to use 4x scopes and relum tornados then see who the best shot is lol
     
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