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Air Arms V Bsa Pcp, S

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by trumpetier, May 23, 2020.

  1. trumpetier

    trumpetier Very Active

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    I've owned numerous of both S400/410/510,s and Ultras/Scorpions. All but one (Scorpion) was completely standard and every Bsa was more consistent than any of AA offerings. Anyone found this ?

    I enjoy guns from both manufacturers, it's just an observation :)
     
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    I agree I’ve had 2 air arms a s410 carbine and a S410 tdr and Both weren’t really consistent but we’re really accurate I’ve had a couple bsa’s and all have been more consistent but not as accurate
     
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    My TDR is 7fps across a mag full. My ultra is also consistent, but it’s been regged.

    both my previous S410’s were also very consistent.
     
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    Pretty much my findings mate, although one particular Scorpion I had was absolutely bang on accuracy wise.
     
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    They were accurate but not as good as the s410s were wish I had them now :facepalm:
     
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    id rather have accuracy than consistency ….12-15 fps is not really seen down range
     
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    A full mag yes, but across the sweet spot, typically it's over 20fps with AA I've found, sometimes near 30fps. I think every Bsa I've had has been no more than half the AA figures.
     
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    that's intresting….maybe the striker(hammer) is not balanced with the valve?
     
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    What on every AA ? I must of had at least a dozen mate, and none were as consistent as my BSA, s :)
     
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    20-30 fps across the sweet spot is very poor imho:confused: Dont the hft 500 share the same innards? they have a spread of single figures :)
     
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    For the TDR it’s 35 shots to about 11fps (from memory)

    I think the S410’s I had were also around 10fps across the sweet spot - about 170bar to 100bar (roughly)

    All my aa’s have been very consistent - ah yes, also my S200 :D

    although I know 20fps has no effect on poi I always like mine to be as near single figures as possible.
     
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    Possibly mate. Over the years I've heard many, many times people quoting single figure consistently from the 400/410,s etc, I've just never came across this on the dozen plus 400 series guns I've owned over the years. Yes there accurate, but not that consistent imo, although obviously accuracy is king.
    All my BSA, s without exception, we're more consistent :)
     
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    I don't think BSA's are as bad as some seem to think. Mine is OK. Even though I know it could do with a tune.

    I bought my R10 because I gave up waiting for AA to release the regged S510. Back then I had to have a reg at all costs; now I could live without one. Anyway the regged S510 came out and they had problems. It's all swings and roundabouts. If I knew what I knew now I would probably buy a beech S400 it would do everything I need. As it is now I am sort of invested in the BSA world and so my next one will be a BSA too. I like the stock shape by the pistol grip on the plywood ones. I have the magazines. And so on. The current AA offerings are good, it's the stocks I am not fond of, but that aesthetics not ergonomics. If AA were to offer a different laminate I might be tempted. But I want a mag and I like the Goldstar.

    EDIT: Yes I see I contradicted myself there. At my rimfire club we shoot in strings of 10. And it just easier with a mag than fumbling for pellets so yes I want a mag. Do I need a mag? Not really I could fumble for pellets it wouldn't be a show stopper. I would be used to fumbling now! Sorry.
     
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    All my bsa’s have been consistently troublesome if that helps.

    Chris
     
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    Um. You do realise there are two constants there, BSA and........you. :)

    This is what I don't get. How some here just have bad runs with one particular brand; while others have no problems.

    And it doesn't speak well for the industry at all really.
     
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    I'm going back to S200, s. I will buy a pair probably, one in .177 and in .22. Obviously they will be MK2, s ;) so will have to wait until the right ones turn up :thumb:

    I will then have come full circle. Started out with a S200 many years ago and hopefully end with them. But then........
     
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    I have to clear rifle requirements. A rifle with an adjustable stock to take to my rimfire club. A rifle for shooting down the hall at home. At the moment the R10 is doing both sort of. The first is an easy fix, I will just get a Goldstar. The second as many of my posts here tell hasn't been a clear cut choice. I think I have looked at everything now.............
     
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    Well I think you must of had all the bad AA’s ever made and Ive had all the BSA’s :D

    I did have 1fps av over ten shots from my s400 :cool:


    Chris
     
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    :D Sounds like it mate :D
     
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    I had an XTX'd scorpion that was ridiculously accurate,bought it in my early days of getting back into air rifles, went on to sell it and now regret it.

    Since then owned .22 s400, .177 s410, .22 US s510 and now a .177 US s510 and .22 S200, all as accurate as the scorpion if not a touch more in some instances (@trumpetier I think I offered my s200 to you but it's a bit rough round the edges)


    To be fair I may have been lucky as I've only really struggled with one gun which was the FX wildcat mk1 easily could have been as much me as the rifle, one after noon I put a whole tin of pellets through it and I was no better than when I started :rofl:

    I'd happily buy another BSA rifle from what I understand they have a great aftermarket tuning following which I'd enjoy going down as well
     

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