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Advice Air Arms S510 Or S510 Tdr?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Hampshire Tog, Jun 23, 2021.

  1. Hampshire Tog

    Hampshire Tog Donator

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    Am toying with the idea of getting an AA PCP and am undecided between a TDR and a carbine either the Superlite Hunter Green or Carbine Walnut - haven't decided yet. Rifle to be used for HFT, plinking and target shooting and maybe hunting as and when a permission can be obtained. Will be in .177.

    Would be keen to hear any pros or cons on either of these rifles. I am especially keen to hear whether on the S510 TDR, there is any stock wobble.

    Many thanks in advance for any insights.
     
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    shw Engaging Member

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    Have you thought about the ultimate sporter R
     
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    I’ve always liked tdr’s and shot count shouldn’t be a problem. I had a s410 tdr and there was no stock wobble at all.
     
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    fixedwheel Busy Member

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    Do you need the multi-shot? I have gone for HFT500, also has a higher capacity cylinder for increased shot count.
    Mainly bench rest shooting at the moment, and stunningly accurate (in someone elses hands, I still have a lot to learn)
     
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    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    The only reason to go for the TDR is if you particularly want the takedown feature, as you pay a price against the standard rifle in terms of ergonomics and the anti-tamper likely being a particular b*stard. The standard gun also holds 50% more air and is likely better balanced too.

    From my experience of the S410TDR there's no stock wobble and it's certainly one of the better designed and executed takedown guns; just not so good in some ways compared to the standard gun.
     
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    chuggypop Marmite - I'm undecided.

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    As luck would have it, I dug my 510R out just yesterday with a view to selling her as I never use her now I have the Artemis P15. Gave her a wipe over and decided to play for 15 minutes in the garden (about an hour before I had been using the P15 for a bit of plinking and the target holder was still in situ) so in goes a target and I began the reacquaintance. What a bloody class act these things really are, 10 gentle nudges in the shoulder and a ragged one hole group over 27 yards. I cannot sell this gun, even though it is far too heavy for me now, it's simply too good to be without.
     
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    Maj S Engaging Member

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    I have a HFT500 its deadly accurate, and great shot count. I'd recommend them all day long. Happy Gun Shopping
     
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    pjgtech I shoot, therefore I aim......

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    Can't comment on the 510TDR, but no stock wobble on my 410TDR.
    The standard gun is arguable a better gun, more shots, etc, but.....
    The TDR is just cool! :D Issa James Bond gun innit bruv..... :thumb:
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    I owned a 510 TDR.
    Accurate enough, but for me and I dont have large hands, very cramped in relation to the distance between grip and trigger.
    Forend is way too short which compromises a good hold / stance, and makes it feel heavier than it really is.

    Unless you have a fascination for taking the rifle apart and putting it in its case, then reassembling to use it, I'd give it a big swerve.

    Its a bit of a shame really as it uses the same cylinder / shroud / silencer configuration that the Ultimate Sporter uses. In my mind the perfect combination for a hunter.
    The s510, weirdly uses a longer cylinder and a totally useless (in terms of silencing effect) shroud and needs an add on mod, which makes it a bit of a musket.

    So I suppose I'm saying, neither
     
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    Hampshire Tog Donator

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    Yes, I have but I prefer a lighter gun. Not sure what you get with the US other than adjustable cheekpiece and a heavier stock.
     
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    With the R version you also get a few more shots with a 250 bar fill
     
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    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    I can't say I'm particularly fond of any of the guns you mention :rolleyes: It's not that they are bad, just ............... inappropriate for what your looking for in my view :oops:

    The only reason to buy a TDR is for portability, if you don't need that feature it's not the right gun for you. The Superlights are nice enough, but they mark so easily, I've had a couple of them and would not have another, as both got "damaged" when any other gun would have just shrugged it off, and they are not that light anyway compared to the standard ones.

    Perhaps think if you want a single shot or a multi shot? Both of these are available from the AA510 family that the other two are related to, so perhaps a standard s510/US/HFT500 could be the better choice for you?
     
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    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    James makes a good point about the Superlight - they balance beautifully but are soft as shoite, impossible to repair when dinged and compromised ergonomically compared to a dedicated RH stock.
     
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    I've got to admit I am attracted just a little bit by that 'assassin chic' of the TDR.
     
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    That's a really useful piece of information about the stock. OK, so if I opt for an S510 carbine, then consider the walnut RH stock and not the superlite. Thanks for that nugget. You have to love this forum!
     
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    Thank you for your thoughts. I think I prefer a multi shot. Can one get a single shot tray for the S510? I haven't really considered the HFT 500. At 3.7kg un-scoped it looks like a real lump. I see guys at the club with them and they have forearms like legs of mutton. I'm just not built that way. I should add, I'm looking to do HFT for fun rather than serious competition. I have to say, a rifle with a walnut stock for under a grand looks like good value for money and you don't hear many horror stories about them...or do you?
     
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    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Yes; the walnut is the smart choice IMO as it's lighter than the beech, looks nicer and (within limits) is far easier to repair if dinged (self-coloured and oiled rather than stained and lacquered). Beech and Walnut are dedicated RH/LH and have the same geometry, Superlite is ambi ;)
     
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    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    Yep, single shot loaders are available for the S510, but be careful, I've bought two and neither worked properly but looked fine, I may just have been unlucky though, so don't go for a cheap one, you have to pay for quality on occasions.
     
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  19. Ray13

    Ray13 "You failed to maintain your weapon son".

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    I have an S510 TDR. It was bought specifically for hunting and portability. I can report there is no stock wobble on mine, just a bit of an annoying squeak when dis-assembling it. It fits me very well, being small in stature. I bought a Rowan single shot loader for it - they are quality.
    I also have an S410 with an ambi Superlite stock. As has already been commented, the poplar wood stock is very soft and even a slightly over tightened bipod will leave an unsightly impression in the wood. It is quite well balanced but I would trade that stock for a walnut one at the drop of a hat.
    If you only might be using the rifle for hunting but mostly for HFT, target or plinking then I wouldn't get the TDR. I would probably go for an Ultimate Sporter. The TDR is a bit of a "marmite" rifle but if it fits you, you will enjoy using it. You need to shoulder one before buying and also try the Ultimate Sporter. The US might be a bit heavier but that can often mean greater stability on the shot.
     
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    You might think the HFT is heavy from the book figure of 3.7kg, but if you take a look at other rifles, such as the TX200 in walnut at 3.9kg, or the ProSport in walnut at 4.1kg. And people love these as balance is more important.
    One of the other great things about the AirArms 4XX/5XX range is the interchangability of stocks. One stock bolt and you can swap around your action/scope into another stock. Full blown benchrest setup, and then to a GRS aftermarket stock in moments.
     
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