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AIR ARMS 410 or 510

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by ProCoe, Sep 10, 2014.

  1. ProCoe

    ProCoe Engaging Member

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    Hi Guys,
    Still looking, and getting great info from this site,
    I was looking at the BSA R10 MK2 it's my first rifle went to local gunshop today the guy sells
    theR10 but told me he has had a lot come back too him with problems.
    So I know a lot of you guys rate the AirArm range was thinking about the 410 or 510 in 1.77
    my friend just ordered a 410 super lite hunter from ronniesunshines today and gets tomorrow ..
    i be able to use his as I won't have one till dec as taking family on holls first, we even have land too
    shoot on also going to practice plenty first before we go hunting as the guy hold shoots on his land and
    said to my mate he will put corn down for him as they are good mates..
    so what would you guys go for 410 or 510 I am buying second hand I will have about £500 or a bit
    more hoping to get some extras with it ????
    Thanks every body for your help and advice

    simon..
     
  2. Scope.22

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    What extras are you looking for? It's not a great deal more than £500 to go new. As far as I'm aware, the only difference is the 510 has a fully shrouded barrel and lever action instead of bolt action. I'm in a similar shopping position as you, have been considering the R10 but will likely go Air Arms.
     
  3. sharpshooterpete

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    I own an AA S410 and ive tried the S510. The only difference between them really is the 510's side lever action and shrouded barrel. Im not too keen on the side lever but the shrouded barrel looked good. You need to give them both a go to decide what kind of action you want. As for the R10, it is a brilliant rifle. It fits so well, accuracy is spot on and its very quiet with the silencer but i found the bolt action on it to be a bit, loose feeling. It was easier to cock than the S410 but it just didnt feel like a very solid action, almost rattly... and one other thing i have come across is the magazine issue. After putting 30 pellets through it, it kept jamming. Got a new magazine for it and its been working a dream but its not the first time this has happened. Two blokes down my local club have had the same issue. Other than that the R10 really is a superb rifle.

    atb,

    pete.
     
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    i own 2 bsa multi shots with the new style mags and have problems with both of them.they are woeful but they are accurate.iwould have the air arms over the bsa in multi shot every time
     
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    Iv had the s410 and the s410f superlite and they are very good rifles but I think they lack soul there abit boring ..had 2 r10s and they never missed a beat also very good guns. Its down to personal choice atb
     
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    Personally i love the look of the R10 but have heard of many more issue with the R10 than the S410/510 which put me off a little and i went for the S410. Never had an issue with it at all, yet a couple of the lads at my local club have R10's and most of them have had the jamming issue and a few with other issues too.
     
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    If it where me I'd go for 410.I don't like the lever on the 510.I had an s400 and it really was awesomely accurate. I could hit a 177 pellet at 50yds and used to regularly shoot mint I.perials at 65yds.I only parted with it as I found there was no challenge with it,and have gone back to a springer.atb jw
     
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    You would be ok with either gun it's the price thats the main difference but saying that I love the look of the ultimate sporter.
     
  9. ProCoe

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    Hi Guys
    thanks so much for the replies my friend gets his 410 today we will be going out later,
    so I can try his, does it make much deference if one gun is regulated and the other is not???
    as I think the R10 is regulated but the airarms 410 is not would that make much difference too me
    if it wasn't ??..not to sure what that means, And the 410 1n 1.77 would make a good hunting riffle also
    as there seem to be a lot more in 22 second hand..

    thanks every body again for your help..
     
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    I never felt the need to get mine regged.they say to fill them to 190 but I found over time that if I filled mine to 170 and run it down to just over 100 it was always in the sweet spot! In .177 I got around 65 to 70 bang on shots with it.I'm sure what with gauges theyll differ slightly.I'm sure there are more in .22 2nd hand as I think using heavy .177 pellets(mine loved he magnums at 10.4grns)the trajectory was brilliant for long range shots and for hunting they packed hell of a punch,so best of both worlds.only my opinion. Atb jw
     
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    Hw magnums even ha
     
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    hello, depends if you prefere a bolt/side lever action but i think the term super lite is a bit exaggerated.
     
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    Thanks guys, Still like the R10 but don't want to buy one and get nothing but problems with it?
    used my mates 410 yesterday and that was really nice, If you buy new how much guarantee do you get with it. The
    R10 would you get 12 months so if it did go wrong they would fix it..
    most of you guys using 1.77 now for hunting still not sure what too get 1.77 or 22 as they are the same price..
    Decisions and so many different answers lol..

    Simon..
     
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    With only 2weeks experience of owning a PCP to offer can I ask if you really need a magazine? If not think about the S400 and keep the option of buying a Rowan magazine later. Total cost is , I believe , much cheaper than the S410. I appreciate the magazine has to be indexed manually but understand it to be a lovely piece of kit.
    Dag
     
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    In the UK the .22 is more popular than .177 in terms of total sales so you will see more for sale in .22. I've never found any problems with hunting with a .177 and it does shoot a bit flatter, if you come to sell a .177 it will sell better than a .22 most of the time.
    The 510 is more or less a version of the 410, the main difference being the sidelever cocking. I have a 410 (in .177) and 3 rifles with sidelever cocking and if there is any difference it doesn't bother me at all. That said cocking a HW100 is extremely smooth and easy.
    The 410 has been around a long while and it's extremely popular and for very good reasons. It's a simple rifle to service and maintain, especially the earlier ones without the anti tamper fitted although it seems as though that does fall off quite a few rifles. If you're looking for a general purpose rifle I suggest the classic version with a beech stock, the superlite models have a poplar stock which is softer and more easily marked and there's not a huge weight saving.
    I have fitted a regulator to my 410 and it will give slightly more than 100 very good shots before it needs filling but it's by no means an essential fitment and doing it yourself does require quite a bit of time and effort (and understanding) to get it right. A standard gun will give consistency which is nearly as good but just over fewer shots and you will need to fill it before the performance drops off. You work out this point by shooting a full shot string over a chrono or, at a push, you can do it by shooting and noting when the point of impact starts to drop noticeably - do a count of shots and refill before you get to this point.
     
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    Don't you get a 2 year warranty with the R10 because of the issues they've had? I'm sure I read this somewhere.
     
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    for what its worth to you mr procoe ive been shooting near on 50 yrs and always with 22 springers.then i joined this site and got some pcps allin 22.then after lots of reading of posts on the forum went and got my first 177(pcp)left it the bedroom for weeks but eventually went to a local club to have a go on the plinking range(i only hunt)once i found the right pellet for it (jsb exact diablo 8.44 grn) i was gobsmacked by it.then a few weeks later took it out hunting i would love for the bunnies corvids and woodies to be able to tell you how deadly the gun is but sadly they cant(there all brown bread) it is a aa s 400 classic and a few weeks back even managed to win the long distance trophy at the forum meet with it.people say they are more accurate than 22 but that is not true there is just lless hold over/under to think about which makes it easier (less to tkink about)and if you put a 177 pellet in the right spot it kills just as good as a 22 thats a fact
     
  18. ProCoe

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    Thanks for everybody help, went
    out again with my my mates 410
    target shooting it was great fun.
    i still like the R10 mk2 might buy
    new from Ronnie sunshines as you
    get free servicing and life time
    guarantee with it.. I was going too
    spend £500 on second hand one
    a few hundred more and peace
    of mind
     
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    i think the mk1 r10 had issues but my mk2 has been spot on and never let me down. Having said that the AA s510 looks nice and has a big following . Maybe next on the shopping list.
     

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