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advice pls

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by steveomac, May 17, 2014.

  1. steveomac

    steveomac Active Member

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    Hi All,

    I have just bought a daystate mark 4 2nd hand and just zeroed the scope then went to shoot some metal targets in the garden about 15-20 yards away, you hit the 'heart' of the metal crow target and then re-set the target by hitting a similar piece of metal below which re-sets the target,

    Well my Tx200 has no problem knocking the heart out and re-setting the target but the daystate by comparrison is acurate, I can see the 'target point' wobble but its struggleing to knock it down and cant seem to reset it.

    obviously one is a springer and the daystate is pcp but the daystate doesnt seem to have the same oomph.....I have followed the power settings (how to re set) so its at max power. I dont yet own a crono so cant check that.

    does this sound like there is a problem with the daystate?

    thanks all!

    Steve
     
  2. dave goodall

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    Are they the same cal all three my mk4 daystates were very low 10 ftlb ie 10.2 - 10.4 so this could be answer but with out a chrono u wont no power output but will be pricey to up the power if low as they need reprograming the main reason i sold all my daystates
     
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    I wouldn't have even changed the power without having access to a chrono,suggest you do that first.
     
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    The power setting are easy to change theres no worry of it been over its just a case of listening to beeps and following the cdrom or leaflet it comes with but you could try it again on each seperate beep to see if theres any affect id be pretty confiden its highest setting is around 10.5 tho if 177
     
  5. RichieRich

    RichieRich Ping!

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    That is a big risk! Modding without a Chrono should be avoided.

    If you bought it second hand from an RFD, i would take it to them to sort it out, you have paid for a working gun.
     
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    tnx all!, it shoots straight I just thought it would hit as hard as a springer, re-setting things is dead easy as Dave says...

    Will see if I can get it crono'd at the range tomorrow.

    Kind regards

    Steve
     
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    mattyts Donator

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    The 2 guns you're comparing,they are the same caliber right?
     
  8. steveomac

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    yes mate - both 1.77
     
  9. dave goodall

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    Si the robin might be worth a pm he was having probs with his mk4 and was sorted straight out with a new battery but you need to crono to see where to start
     
  10. terry1001

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    I think that the original question was basically should his new Daystate reset the target at 15-20 yards. I would have thought that since the target can be reset by another rifle then the Daystate should also do so unless it is producing quite low power. Obviously a chrono is the only way to be sure and the rifle needs to be tested. If it is low on power then that poses more questions, certainly if from a trade seller then seriously consider returning it either for a refund/exchange or a free service/repair to get ot to full power. If it was a private deal then I would contact the seller and complain because clearly it's turned out to be something other than you expected when you made the deal.
    It does, again, illustrate the point that a decent chrono is worth it's weight in gold when you go to buy a rifle and particulalry an expensive one. A service at Daystate is not going to be cheap so what may have looked like a bargain may turn out to be expensive. If it were a fully mechanical rifle then setting the power to a sensible level would not have been a factory job. Hopefully the rifle will turn out to be ok and there's a problem with the target.
    I'm sure that you have checked the method for setting/adjusting the power but don't forget to take the instructions to the range with you so that you can see what effect the adjustments have. I believe that there are Daystate service agents who aren't as expensive as the factory so don't rush into sending it back before asking around.
     
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    You sure its not in low power mode?
    There are two selectable powers, full power sub 12 at around 11.4 and 75 percent. No chrono needed its user selectable from the setup mode.
     
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    Dave at SCR is a tiny fraction of Daystates prices if it needs work.
     
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    Hi,
    Check your pellet probe O ring stick a piece of tissue over to top if it moves when you fire loosing air.
    I have a Panther change my after a few thousand shots, they wear quicker if using a magazine.
    BS003 for 177 BS004 for 22
     
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    really appreciate your advice - tnx all!
     
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    Hi Panther, just tried your suggestion and the paper moves slightly. it didnt fly off but just flickered.
     
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    Hi Bemused,

    having watched the CD that came with it I think it has 6 power settings.
     
  17. steveomac

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    i love the craftmanship of the ST stock but feel I've been sold a faulty gun..... :(
     
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    I know gantongunner had a problem with his MK4is as that was the opposite of yours and running high. He had it re-programmed at Redbecks, for £20. Plus a full service there is only £70 which is a third of what Daystate charge.
     
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    Hi,
    That means you are loosing some air which might be a contributor to a power loss, I would change o ring first before anything else that may be more expensive.
    Good luck with it, the guys on the Daystate owners forum are a helpfull bunch.
     
  20. jesim1

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    I've had several of these now, and even on low power they will reset a target easily as the drop from full power to low power is only about 1 to 1.5ftlb, so even if it's shooting at 9ftlb it would have no trouble at 15m. (I think this is newer models)

    All the obvious have been mentioned, the chrono at least gives you an actual figure, you can do your springer also and compare, perhaps your springer's way over?

    One thing though - can you just confirm that this is a "non screen MK4" - none of mine have had any more than 2 power settings in the newer stuff, but I've got documentation mentioning 16 settings in the older ones??. I know some of the manuals did not accurately reflect the settings on some of the early MK4s, so you could be adjusting the wrong setting in error? I'll PM you a copy of the ones I had to use on one of my early guns, try each to make sure it's correct - e.g. beeps on/off, 10 shot mag beep on/off etc. If it does have 16 settings you could be way off and have an easy fix.

    James
     
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