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Question Advice please,

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by terryhodgson53, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. terryhodgson53

    terryhodgson53 Newbie

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    I work at a charity shop and we have recieved an anonymous donation of two gamo air pistols in a gun case.We obviously cannot sell them in the shop and was going to hand them over to the police as we also cannot put them in our bins.Is it legal to sell them, do we need a licence to sell them? Any advice would be helpful as if we can sell them legally the cash would go to our charity.Thanks to al who reply.
     
  2. mattyts

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    Can you sell them privately,outside of the charity? I think you need an RFD to trade in air guns and other firearms.
     
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    terryhodgson53 Newbie

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    I could sell them, but don`t know anything about wether its legal to do so.If it is then i would sell them for funds for us.there were no papers etc with the items.I assumed I would need to register them before I could do anything with them.Thanks for the reply.
     
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  4. JD

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    Have got a gun shop near you ?

    you could ask to have them sold on, on behalf for the charity, or just ask for a secondhand price, if they were to buy them off you.

    Don't try to sell them as a private seller, as they are not your property.
     
  5. Jfrwhite

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    Personally, I would hand them over to the police especially as they were an anonymous donation.

    Or at least check that they havn't been reported stolen before selling them on.
     
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    Another thought, if you do go in to sell them, maybe there is a member in your area that may be able to check the power of the pistols for you before you sell them on? Just to make sure you don't sell on an illegal firearm by mistake?
     
  7. Trouserferret

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    Hi mate, I think this depends on the particular charity involved and how management deals with this sort of thing.

    My girlfriend is assistant manager of a shop local to us, and anything they can't sell through the shop she has managed to shift on through other means and get the cash for the shop.

    It's a bit of a grey area as it regards firearms, but she said she'd bring them to me to get a valuation with a view to shifting them on. Your local RFD would be the best bet, as even a tenner is better than nowt. Then it's kinda above board and you have receipts that cover you etc. If it was a personal sale, then there's nothing to worry about. No licences are needed, but I still think it would be better selling them to a gun shop for peace of mind.

    Wish she got pistols donated. Best I got was a tie with cats on and a Ramones babygro for my buddy's kid... :(
     
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    As a private individual you don't need a license to sell them, but if your charity were to sell them then it would need to be a registered firearms dealer to do so.

    If I were you I would sell them as a private individual and then donate the proceeds to your charity; the law is unbroken and the charity receives the benefit.
     
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    You can sell them on,privately ie from enthusiast to enthusiast and they don't need to be on any form of register as you dont require a license to use them.

    Donate them to a local target club or something,giving them to police means they will probably end up being destroyed or sat in a storage unit done where,
     
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    Sell them me I have a tenner or two waiting:D

    No seriously If they are below 6 ft/ibs I don't see any reason they couldn't be sold privately.
     
  11. JD

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    How can you advise someone that does not know feck all about airguns, does not know the law concerning them, and is in possession of air pistols, which are in fact not his to sell..............advice to sell privately ? : O

    A gun shop is the only option or they should be handed into the police.
     
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  12. cloverleaf

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    This, pretty much. The only potentially sticky wicket I can see is the legality of transferring the pistols from the charity to you (both in the sense of you taking something that's been donated to the charity and their position as the supplier of the pistol).

    Common sense prevailing for a minute; the law requiring those wishing to sell guns "by way of trade" to hold an RFD is there to stop unvetted (and potentially irresponsible) individuals from flogging guns in quantity to all and sundry with disregard for age or intent.

    While you shifting the pistols privately might arguably not be to the letter of the law, it's not the kind of situation the law's trying to prevent - end of the day you're seeking to dispose of the guns responsibly and I think it would take an extremely pedantic copper to have a problem with the situation.

    Another angle from which to view the situation is that if you received the pistols whilst working at the charity (or were present at the time) "the charity refused them" and you took them personally instead - hence the charity were never in posession of the guns in the first place so could not be accused of any wrongdoing in supplying them to you.

    Taking the pistols to the coppers is massive overkill IMO - a pointless bow of the head to authority and law that isn't really relevant in this case; that will ultimately benefit nobody. If the guns are sold on your behalf they stay in one piece, people get some pistols to enjoy and the charity makes a few quid :up:

    I'd like to think that there are members in your area who might take the pistols off you and sell on your behalf on the forum - that would make things a lot easier :)
     
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    That, being a double negative, wold translate to someone who does know something...

    Sorry - couldn't resist ;)
     
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    If your in it to make money, a rfd/gunshop is the only option.

    I know of people who do house clearence, if they find a airgun or if they find a firearm, it go's to the local rfd/gunshop, theres money to be made, but its all above board.

    These pistols were given to a charity, not just someone who works there.
     
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    I see your point, however as long as the charity gets a fair price and the guns go to a responsible owner, what's the problem? Where's the victim of this arguable "crime"?
     
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