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Advice on a valuation

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Hoodster, May 16, 2014.

  1. Hoodster

    Hoodster Engaging Member

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    I have a friend of a friend who wants to swap my tuned & regulated s410 action for his s410 action plus cash my way.
    The deal is just for the actions so we would be keeping our own stocks, scopes and bling both actions are pre-antitamper and in good condition, I tuned & regulated my action myself but I have it returning just over 70 shots at 11.2ft.lbs a definite improvement over the standard 60 shots with a power curve.
    I'm thinking £150 my way which is £100 on parts and £50 for my troubles, I don't know if I'm being cheeky or greedy asking for the £50 what do you guys think ?

    thx Rick.
     
  2. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    All depends.. what's your motivation for considering the swap? Are you actively looking to go back to a non-regged setup? Money?

    Personally I wouldn't even consider swapping most of one of my rifles for another bloke's action - it's an unknown quantity and will doubtless need stuff doing to it - stuff that you've already spent time getting sorted on your own gun. Miserable as it might seem, I'd consider this even less if I had nowt really to gain and was only looking at it because some other bloke wanted his gun regged and had his gannet eyes fixed on my gun :p

    Those thoughts aside I wouldn't really consider £150 your way greedy; £50's worth of time isn't much at professional rates (compared to what it would cost to get his gun regged elsewhere) although £100 for parts is maybe a bit steep considering Rob Lane regs are only about £90 new so probably worth about £50-60 used. £150 sounds fairly reasonable on balance though; assuming the work's been done to a good standard (no offence ;)) and looking at what the fitment of a reg seems to do to prices of used guns.

    Another thought (not going out of my way to be critical ;)) is that you seem to be getting very few shots per charge out of your rifle - I'm assuming by the "c" suffix and the info in your sig that it's a Classic length gun in .22 - by way of comparison I expect around 60-65 shots from a well setup, unregged Carbine in .22, and have had over 100 shots per charge from classic length examples. All these are within 1.5% velocity spread so no more than 8-9ft/s extreme spread over a charge with AA Field pellets.

    Just out of interest (if you don't mind deviating from the original question) how has your gun been setup? What's the reg output pressure? did you change the exhaust valve? How is the transfer port adjusted? Have you done any work to short stroke the striker?

    :)
     
  3. Akita177

    Akita177 The Absolute State of Britian podcast

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    I was getting 60shots from my regged 177 S410k carbine 210bar fill, then i fitted the rob lane anti bounce hammer and a bit of fettling to the hammer i get 80shots 11.6ftlb 210bar fill, which isnt to bad for 177 and carbine and the gun became extremerly quiet.
    I would say your .22 results are low what fill pressure are you using?
     
  4. Hoodster

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    Ooops :eek: I thought the c was the carbine, which mine is I've fit the 2 piece striker as well as the reg which is set at 100bar I didn't feel the transfer port neeed any work as at 3.7mm it was wide enough output was balanced using the striker and valve spring tentions. I've cushioned the striker spring with rubber o rings and put derlin on the hammer face to reduce noise.
    It returns 73/74 shots from a 190bar fill with a 15 to 20 fps spread from shot 1 to 73/74.
    I no its not as good a tune as others but it's my first attempt and was a big learning experience which I enjoyed a lot so much so that the thought of having another go at it but this time with Rob lanes new reg is enough motivate the deal for me and the guy in mention is a rather handy bloke to be in favour with.
     
  5. oliver13

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    Looking at the work you've done I'd say £50 is pretty much mates rates, compared to sending the gun to Bowkett or similar to get the same work done.
     
  6. Tim_B

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    I would say keep it - unless you need the money.

    cheers
    Tim
     

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