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Advertising Something For Sale!!!

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Lord Howard, Dec 2, 2019.

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  1. Lord Howard

    Lord Howard Engaging Member

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    Is it just me or you are looking in the items for sale on this and other sites you find just what you are looking for but it's miles away and they will not post!

    Most buyers are willing to pay for p&p but many sellers will not do it, most if not all couriers offer insurance don't they?

    Mr Owner or moderator, what are the chances of adding a section to the guns and parts for sale that only has items that people ARE willing or NOT willing to post (shipping) all the seller would have to do is tick a box as to posting being possible or not just a simple yes or no option. If adding another sales part to this site is no possible how about just an icon in the title of the advert with a parcel logo and a red line across it if not able to post?

    If this was to happen it would be interesting to see say after a month how many hits the not willing adverts had had as opposed to the willing adds for the similar items.

    Thanks, Russ
     
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  2. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Problem is Russ, the only courier most people have access to will not cover the cost of a new Hatsan 55 or 60, without a scope (£100)...

    Want to send a Daystate ParcelFarce?
     
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  3. Ashley keylock

    Ashley keylock Ashley keylock

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    Good idea me thinks, I’ve bought a few guns of here and am happy to accept the risk, after all, the seller has always been paid by bank transfer or ppff before posting so there money is safe.
    I think if buyers could tick a box to indicate that they are happy to take the risk would be a good idea.
    Everyone I’ve dealt with on here have been absolute gentlemen but I am also aware that there are some rouges about.
     
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  4. Lord Howard

    Lord Howard Engaging Member

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    Understood Mr Mole but it would give an option, and that's all it would be an option. As Mr Keylock above states and this goes for my experience on this site as well that the sellers I have dealt with have been good honest people, now I am not nieve enough to think everyone or every deal will be the same but as I have said it's just an idea to have the option to tick a box as too willing to post Y/N
     
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    Deleted member 54697 Very Active

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    If you want to risk a £500+ gun being posted by parcel force with their £100 limited compensation then you might be better off gambling on freeads.
    When I had my hw100 on here I put collection only. But still had a few people asking about postage - I did offer the option of sending via rfd but nobody wanted to pay the fees and wanted me to cover them or they would buy elsewhere - so I didn't sell it to them.

    When I sold a pistol on here the buyer wanted me to send it 2nd class with no insurance as it would be cheaper - I refused and would only send it properly insured - first thing he did was moan it was low powered (it was a co2 pistol) and demanded a refund and said he would post it second class back to me (which he expected me to refund him) I pointed out they are meant to be low power and there was nothing wrong with the gun so he would not be getting any money back.

    If the seller doesn't want the hassle of packing it and then getting it sent off then why should they be forced to just because someone who wants it tells them to.
    If it's a super rare gun that they are desperate to own they would get in the car and fetch it or pay the rfd fees
     
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  6. Ashley keylock

    Ashley keylock Ashley keylock

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    Yes I see your point but,
    As a seller you have already received your money before you pack and post it, as long as the buyer has ticked the (hypothetical box) to indicate they take full responsibility for the item thereafter I can’t see a problem.
    Though as said above, most on here are gents, and when buying anything unseen it’s always the buyer trusting the sellers word/ description, is true and accurate not the other way around
     
  7. Jimmypie

    Jimmypie Pffft , Pop , Twang , Bang

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    I think it’s an interesting idea , but then if you only went by that you might miss out on a sale that’s 1mile down the road from you :p.

    I’ve seen a few folk ask for guns and accessories to be separated which i personally would welcome with both arms open .
     
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    Lord Howard Engaging Member

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    Unfortunate experience for you but when it comes to a buyer dictating how you should send an item then would it not be best to say no sale? After all, they are your items not theirs, would you not agree?
     
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    In the end he agreed to the postage charges.... I did tell him to buy one from someone else or pay the charge.
     
  10. Lord Howard

    Lord Howard Engaging Member

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    Some people are not taking this thread as it was meant to be, when reading an advert only to come to the end of it to find "will not post" then you look at how far away it is can be very frustrating, but, if you had an icon to say the seller will/ will not post then that's half the problem gone and if you are willing to travel you will still click on the advert no matter if they agree to post or not. It might even be an idea to put filters in place to only show certain adverts as in post yes or no, miles like how far away and so on but all this takes time and effort of the site builder and I think the input from us to how we would like to see the site develope is important so please not so many negative stories but positive ideas on possibly how to go forward. If I am out of order thinking this way please tell me.
     
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    @Lord Howard I have raised this with the mod team and this isn't something we will be progressing.
     
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    so the site stays in the dark ages
     
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    It's really not as much of a problem as your insisting it is. There isn't a ton of stuff for sale on this forum at all.

    Do you read every single advert or just the ones that you may have a genuine interest in possibly purchasing?

    Maybe I've just got more time on my hands but I dont see the need to identify items using a logo or symbol based on the fact they will or wont post.

    :shrug: maybe it's just me.
     
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    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    When posting items goes wrong it is the person who posted the item that then has the hassle of making a claim.
    So some people offer posting but say buyer arranges own courier. How would this be implented on the forum.
    I also see adverts that say will post at buyers risk and want the buyer to claim if things go wrong but it's the poster who has the contract with the courier.
    Most of our users won't even notice an option if we put it in big red letters. So it's better to let them put details in the thread.
     
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    bhodge Keyboard Hero

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    There's a lot to be said for a bit of shade...
     
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  16. Jay Butts

    Jay Butts Life, it’s so much better than the alternative!

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    This isn’t eBay or Amazon, it’s a great forum based on gentlemanly trust. Honestly, I may be naive but I don’t have a problem sending or buying stuff for members of the forum.

    Hey, I strongly believe that 99.99% of folk are brilliant and that’s through personal experience working all over the world...
     
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    mikeyhall1 BRIT SEALS - M & M Products - TbT

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    I’ll post whatever you like as long as you except it as your responsibility if it doesn’t turn up.... in an ideal world....

    But in reality... you’ve just spent £500 with me, Parcel Force have sent it to Belfast to be destroyed and the morals and ethics in me kick in hating that fact that you’re out by £500 quid so I’ll end up refunding you. Oh what a mess
     
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    Can't see why things have to be so complicated....it's a pain in the Harris for any seller nowadays anyway - even if the item is as described the buyer can moan.

    If I want the rifle I jump in the car, regardless of where it is. If I think it's too far or not worth it...then it's exactly that...not worth it to me.

    Personally I read most of the for sale ads, the fact that it's not being posted is just one factor and stating in the post is fine for me.
     
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    I've just removed an item from the 'For Sale' section as I didn't think it was right for me to reply whilst it was still being advertised here...
    In the past I've bought and sold a number of items through various Internet shooting groups including this one. I have done deals which were posted by me or delivered to me, but I much prefer the face to face option. If that means I reduce the prospect of gaining a sale then so be it. The TX200HC I was selling will be sold at some point, I'm in no rush!
    It seems to me that someone who is prepared to highlight his dislike of a sellers conditions of sale, is unlikely to be an enthusiastic buyer, I can just see it.... "Not as described in the ad, the stock was damaged, and the bluing faded".
    I would sell you my TX, but you would have to collect it!! (by the way, the stock ain't damaged and the bluing is great!).
     
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    I think sometimes people need reminding that this is a forum and not a sales platform. The mods kindly allow, and moderate the sales section at no benefit to them (except being able to call first dibs on something perhaps :p). Why do people want to over complicate the whole process? It's a great system as it is.
     
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