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Advice Adjusting the sights on a 45!

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by KenKeeping, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. KenKeeping

    KenKeeping Well-Known Member

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    Right, question is, whats the best way to get the adjustable rear sights accurate on my HW45.
    Ive sussed how to do a telescopic sights on a rifle, youtube helped on that one, lol.

    But the open sights on a pistol seems different!
    With the Tele's I get it sorted with the cross hairs, but open sights use the V and front pin.
    I know to you it sounds a stupid question!

    Is it all just trial an arror, or is there a certain way to do it!
    How do you hold a pistol steady each time so that it is in the same posission as the last shot, so as to get an accurate reading, and grouping.

    As you can tell, Ime not at all used to pistols!
    :D Ime as green as green goes, lol.
    Ken

    ps. should have put question on top, not advice, sorry.
    Its advice i need!
     
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  2. The_pierced_1

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    Hi Ken,

    First thing is get good groupings with the sight as it is before you try to adjust it, keep your grip loose and relaxed when shooting as this will help with the recoil. Once you are getting consistent grouping then slowly adjust the rear sight until you are hitting where you are aiming.

    I hadn't shot a spring pistol in over 20 years so I had to learn all over again and what I have said above worked for me. Someone else may have a better method.

    Hope this helps,

    Roy
     
  3. KenKeeping

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    I apreciate that!
    As you are aware, its all new to me, and Ime enjoying it a whole lot.
    But I am always trying to do things right without damaging the gun or anyone else, lol.

    Gonna spend as much time this week with my 45, as I can.
    Between running the Sal, that is.
    He don't like the guns unfortunately.
    But there again they are used at different times anyway.
     
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    The_pierced_1 Posting Addict

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    What range are you shooting at? I started with the 45's at 6 yards or so until I got the hang of it again and now I'm getting consistent groupings at about 8 yards.

    Roy
     
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    the hw45 is very hold sensitive and can be tricky b****r to master
    grip it to tight and you will never hit the target
    nice loose grip works best with the 45,aim at your target,line up the foresight with the rear and gently pull the trigger
    this pic will help with how to adjust the rear sight if the sight is out
    owners manual here
    http://www.pyramydair.com/site/manuals/hw45/
     

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    andyz1000 Banned

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    ps ken
    is yours .22 or .177????
     
  7. KenKeeping

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    Andy! Its a .177.
    Cant remember the last time I had a .177.
    Usualy ended up with .22 rifles, as I was told that the .177 was no good to hunt rabbits with.
    But this 45 is only gonna be used for targets, or when out and about, on pigeons.

    Roy! Ive only started shooting it up to the shed which is a max of 30ft whatever that is in yards, lol.
    What would you recomend me starting at?

    Will take the advice on holding it a lot softer, I do grip it a lot, thats what I thought was best, lol.
    But there again, what do I know, lol.
     
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    the .177 are dual power i.e. 2 cocking positions,low power and full power
    take a look at the link i posted above
    might be worth getting used to it in the low power before trying it at full power

    This Pistol can be operated at two different velocity levels:
    Position 1: Low velocity
    Position 2: High velocity
    (in cal. .22" you can only cock to position 2)
     

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    The_pierced_1 Posting Addict

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    Ken, 30ft is 10 yards so try a slightly shorter distance to start with and as you groupings improve and your sights are right then increase the distance. About 10 paces (6 yards) is a good starting point in my opinion.

    Roy
     
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    That`s good two power levels in .177 this is getting better and better

    Paul
     
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    the newer .22 hw45's are also dual power
     
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    Paul will be after a 45 soon folks, lol.

    Right Roy, will start at 6yds as sugested and go from there!

    A 51yr old learning to shoot a gun, bloody hell, lol.
    Years ago I was able to cut a thread that was holding a fag packet, when I was about 13 that was as well, lol.
    Long time since I picked up a pisto, I can tell you, lol.

    These red lasers have a lot going for them I recon, for us oldies with bad eyes, lol.
     
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    45 year old here mate with terrible eyesight
    haven't shot a spring pistol for over 20 years since my webley tempest days
    i started with the 45 at 6 yards until i mastered the grip of the 45
    now up to 10 yards and getting decent 5p size groups

    don't put a laser on the 45 that would be sacrilege
     
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    Also the recoil of the 45 tends to b****r the lasers zero up unless you have a good quality one!
     
  16. KenKeeping

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    Christ! Ime wondering how to set the sights right on the open set up already, can you imagine me trying to get the laser sorted, lol.
    On a serious note! Titch! You explained the holding well in that vid.
    But then again , you all explain things in a tidy way thats easy to understand, so I should be at least hitting the A4 sheet, if not the target by Sunday, lol.
     
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    My girlfriend tried her hand at pistol shooting for the first time with the Black Star last week and to start with she couldn't hit the piece of A4 at six yards after a little coaxing and assisting with her hold she was getting 1inch groups on the target. The hold and stance are all important and a relaxed attitude, own the pistol and don't let it own you :D

    Roy
     
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    Ive got a few of them! .22 is my favourite - the recoil seems smoother. As advised above, resist the temptaton to start adjusting the sights straight away - shoot lots of pellets and concentrate on grouping first and this will give a good indication of how you need to adjust them.

    I favour a medium firm grip and as previously mentioned hold and grip pressure are crucial.

    Plenty of practice and the HW45 will pay you back with excellent accuracy, power and a great shooting experience.

    :)
     
  19. KenKeeping

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    You do realise that once Ive got to grips with this bloody pistol, I will probably end up wanting another one, dont you, lol.
     
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    Thats what happened to me!

    And when youve got various examples with different grips and callibres then you can add an HW75 too!

    Dont worry, your wife wont be able to tell them appart and if you keep them in different places and rotate them around she will be none the wiser. Mine thinks I only have one!
     

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