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Aas410 Tdr Low Om Power?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by britaniapsych, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:09 PM.

  1. britaniapsych

    britaniapsych Newbie

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    Hi,

    I was just hoping someone could give me some advise/reassurance with regards to an Air Arms S410 TDR I have reserved in my local shop.

    I inspected and shot the rifle today. It's in mint condition, shot beautifully and had a 5 shot spread of only 3fps!

    That said average power output was only 10.3FPE. Is this something I should be put off by? I'll mostly be shooting rats at fairly close range (20M ish) and rabbits out to 35M. I was shooting JSB match Diabolo 8,44gr which it grouped amazingly at 25M.

    Many thanks,
     
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  2. trumpetier

    trumpetier Very Active

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    What was the rifle filled to when you chrono'd it ? At 150/160 bar it should run higher than your figures with them pellets. If it was filled to 190 it may explain the low power.
     
  3. Vulcanfreak

    Vulcanfreak Busy Member

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    10.3 sounds fine to me. Try some JSB heavys in it.
     
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  4. TORNADOS7

    TORNADOS7 Major Poster

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    That's about right if I'm honest buddy, put a heavier pellet (Bisley Magnums) through it and see what happens, you'd be surprised I reckon... :thumb:

    How old is the gun buddy, these do have a recognised uhh "condition" shall we call it were the exhaust valve distorts over time creating a restriction in air flow through the ports, it's no biggy though, there's nowt wrong with it, it's just part and parcel of ownership, expect to replace it every so often that's all...

    They're about 12 quid...
     
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  5. pjgtech

    pjgtech How many days till Xmas?

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    10.3 and its hitting what you are aiming at at 25m, sounds fine to me? I prefer my guns at around 10.5 rather than closer to 12, as its less stress on the gun, smoother shot cycle and more consistent... enjoy it buddy... :thumb:
    As others have said don't over fill it, they have max 200bar fill, but most peeps only fill to 180 or 190. :)
     
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  6. TORNADOS7

    TORNADOS7 Major Poster

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    170-120 for me and getting 80 shots with FTT's @ around 10.9, much prefer AADF's though and get about 70 @ around 11.6...

    This is in .22 by the way... :thumb:
     
  7. pjgtech

    pjgtech How many days till Xmas?

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    I fill mine to bout 180 to 190 and let it drop to about 100 or 90 and I get six mags (60 shots) before power drops off, this is 177... :thumb:
     
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  8. britaniapsych

    britaniapsych Newbie

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    Many thanks for the quick response guys.

    Yes; filled initially to 180bar and only ran it down to 150 bar so I guess that could explain the low power output initially. What really impressed me was the 3fps deviation.

    I don't know the age of this one and I forgot to take the serial number with me but I couldn't find a single blemish on it.

    I go back after the weekend to collect it. I'll ask to try it with some heavier pellets.

    The shops asking £550 for it. Would you say that was a fair price?

    Many Thanks
     
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  9. Victor Robert Allaway

    Victor Robert Allaway Engaging Member

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    It doesn't sound too bad a price from a shop... The 410 TDR is somewhat sought after. Be aware that the maximum fill pressure is 190 bar and most people find the power a little low until you get to 180 bar. It is indeed possible that the firing valve has deformed, masking the airflow, but it could be that the striker and rail need a clean up, ill advised lubrication here dries out and causes drag on the striker and thus lost power - it's the equivalent of reducing striker spring strength, so the valve is not opened as much as intended. Another, though rarer, cause of power loss would be the venturi adjuster becoming loose in its thread and closing itself! All these things are fixable and worth doing on a rifle that already offers consistency and accuracy.

    Rob
     
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  10. sharpsman

    sharpsman Keyboard Hero

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    if you like it buy it , easy to work on and if its running that consistency everything is in order .
     
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