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Aa S510

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Bravomike, Jan 18, 2021.

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  1. Bravomike

    Bravomike Active Member

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    Evening,

    If there are any owners of this rifle is there a possibility you could measure the scope rail please?
    I’d like to know the distance from the back of the scope rail to the magazine and the the height of the magazine above the scope rail. Thank you
     
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    The distance from the rear of the scope rail to the magazine is 93mm.
    The magazine is 12mm (half an inch) above the scope rail.


     
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    Thank you for the quick help
     
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    I bought a new S510 TDR and I’ve noticed that the front of the scope rail is higher that the back by using a few levels.
    Is this normal for the S510?
     
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    rgc_swanseaARC He's not the Stig...He's the Stigs Welsh cousin

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    If it helps you need a min of 15mm from bottom of the scope mount to the saddle that the scope rests in to clear the magazine.
    Hawke match high are 17mm and give a bit of leeway.
    Sportsmatch med are exactly 15mm and it's tight.

    Regards
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    Thanks you, I realise i didn’t really explain myself too well.
    When trying to place my new scope I get the gun nice and level using a spirit level. Then I fit the mounts using the rail in front of the magazine and behind.
    I use another level on top of the vertical turret to be as good as level both horizontal and vertical. When I fitted it I noticed the spirit level shows the front of the scope pointing up in the air rather than parallel with the scope rail. When I tried to zero it at 30 yards I maxed the vertical turret all the way down and it still didn’t go low enough to the POI.
    I think my scope rail is not level and the front is higher than the back. Is this normal for the S510?
     
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    I don't own a 510 but I would certainly have expected the scope rail to be level (or flat) from front to back. My HW100 certainly is!

    Good luck in getting it sorted out, Martin
     
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    The scope rails are not supposed to be at different heights. . . They are certainly level on my S510.
    Have you inspected the mounts? Sometimes they are not engineered as well as expected.
    Try swapping them round from front to back to see if there is a difference.
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    I have had an s510 no problems, ignore the scope cap its the dove tails that matter and the mounts. Its very unlikely that the dovetails are out. Try different mounts and scope.
     
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    Thanks for the feed back. The mounts are Sports match that I used on my R10 and they were absolutely spot on with that. Ive used 2 sets of mounts with the same issue.
    I’ll have another play with it in a bit, it’s probably a human error, Me!!
     
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    How many mil out?, if only a fraction swap the mounts around and check levels again.Can be an advantage to have back mount up by0.13mm
     
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    At 10 meters 6 mrad out vertically and then the turret is maxed out to get it zeroed.
    It seems to be the front is higher than the back. I’ll play around with it, hopefully it’s something small and simple as the mounts
     
  13. rgc_swanseaARC

    rgc_swanseaARC He's not the Stig...He's the Stigs Welsh cousin

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    Just a thought... Have you checked you haven't got a recoil stop sticking out the bottom of one of the mounts, one that is meant for springers for example.
    If so, retract or remove it
     
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    Yip, they are recoil spring is out as the same mounts were used on the R10 and were spot on
     
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    rgc_swanseaARC He's not the Stig...He's the Stigs Welsh cousin

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    Odd... Was just a thought.
    I was thinking if it was sticking out even a mil or two the mounts would still probably go on the rail but would sit a bit higher.

    Might be worth trying some other mounts then I guess?
     
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    Yes but its not on an r10 now is it! Screw the recoil pin in so its not sticking out underneath at all. Put the mounts on the rifle first then locate the scope.
     
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    You are correct it’s not on an R10. The recoil pin has never been in the mounts from day one so there is nothing to screw in or out
     
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    Don't understand this!?
    If the front of the scope is pointing up the rifle would be shooting low?
     
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    Ah I see, myself and others were under the impression the pin was still in.;)
     
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    looking at your pics the scope mounts are very close to the turret assy, are they clamping on the radius where the turret assy rises above the tube? try moving the clamps a couple of millimeteres apart so they are definitely locating on the tube diameter only.
     

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