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A slight anomaly?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Patrick, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. Patrick

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    Whenever the question of which calibre is aired on this, and other forums, the majority of opinion appears to favour the .177 for various reasons but i read recently in an airgun magazine that pellet manufacturers/distributors sell about 3 times more .22 pellets than .177 in this country which seems a bit of a contradiction.Any thoughts on this?
     
  2. Ganton Gunner

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    blame the crosman owners
     
  3. Kenbarcon

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    Probably due to all the younger owners that only use air rifles for playing with, there will be far more people that own them as toys and treat them like that, and always think .22 means more power as its bigger.
     
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    The majority of the people I see buying air rifles don't tend to read much / have set in their heads that because .22 is bigger its better and being honest a lot of them are the type of knuckle head who want to kill stuff and have heard .22 kills stuff better :p

    That said I live in a pretty s****y area and tend to go to the shot the time these sort of people are about

    (Not trying to knock .22 or shooters :p or say .177 is better before I have to grab a tinfoil hat and cry in the corner under a barrage of abuse)
     
  5. Pidlar

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    We get between 40 and 65 on our club Sundays, only perhaps 6 to 8 are forum users. Perhaps the combined total of Back Garden plinkers, permission shooters and pest controllers etc still owning .22 would explain the figures.
    Regards Stu.
     
  6. JSB888

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    Maybe .22 shooters miss more, so need to buy more pellets?
    ;)
     
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    My fumbly old fingers can load the 22 pellets much more easily than the 177s. Tired old eyes can't see far enough for the different trajectories of the two to matter. Oh, b****r, I wish I was in my thirties again, but then again, No.2 son, who is, shoots 9mm. Maybe I should try to go that route, but then again (apart from lacking the skill required to qualify for the licence) a lousy pension means I could probably not afford the cartridges. I'm going down the pub . . . .
     
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    Interesting Point

    Doubt if a True Fact - As Most Club / Target Shooter Shoot .177 ;)

    BOB/R
     
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    It's because all the .177 fanboys are on here all the time going on about how superior the girly calibre is, whilst the .22 men are out using pellets.
     
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    Is it to do with getting more shots per fill in .22 PCPs? Perhaps if general plinkers use a certain number if fills per session then .22 plinkers will get through more pellets per session on average?

    Probably not though.
     
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    .22 shooters need 2 other .22 shooters on standby in case they inevitably miss.
     
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    Haha :D
     
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    I'll be honest, when I was a kid I thought .22 was more powerful...
     
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    I get the cal that brings more benefits to the rifle, usually that is .22 in most cases. Yes holdover is more, but really for the distances you shoot normally (let's say when hunting it's between 20 and 40yards) holdover isn't massive anyway.

    I feel more confident of a clean dispatch with .22 aswell.

    (yes I know about- hit it in the perfect spot and it won't budge etc....) But .22 makes that spot bigger IMO
     
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    a thread like this was on here a while back and one shop owner said he sells 5 tins of 22 to every 177.but i think the difference is even bigger than that as some of these club members go through more pellets in a day than a hunter would go through in a month.someone asked the question a while back (how many pellets do you buy a month)and some of the replys from the club lads were beyond belief.some were a thousand a month.
     
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    A thousand is 2 club visits for me :(
     
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    Thousand this year :D
     
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    I haven't been to the club twice this year :(

    Last year I was there twice a week often using a tin of pellets every trip.
     
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    Age old argument starting from the days of the old BSAs and Webley mk3s has brain washed newcomers to still genuinely believe a .22 Is more powerfull.

    But I would hope that any serious airgun shooter knows now that a hole through small games brain or heart will inevitably kill it, so to use the flattest and fastest only makes sense sub 12.

    Its true any calibre will kill shot from a decent accurate consistent airgun, but for me where range only extends potential opportuntities of shots for me I choose the cal that deviates its path the least in flight, and current hollow point pellet designs are endless to give you the same damage of bigger pellets at close range, it seems theres a pellet choice now for every occasion.

    It seems its true .22 have always sold better, but so has the bible and people still believe every story even though each one was created in a time before most people could read write, or communicate through the internet and mobile phones, so I would say many people were pretty easily influenced back then and many still are, from age old myths look what it started.
     
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    .22 pellets sell more because that cal out numbers .177 rifles 4 to 1 in this country.
     

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