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Question A& M CYLINDER

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by wizard1963uk, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. wizard1963uk

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    anyone got this fitted on a hw100 kt 22 if so would you recommend it ? is it a lot lighter and what sort of shot count are you getting , also how accurate is the gauge
    atb
    TERRY
     
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    Got one on an S200,so can't help with the HW 100.I can tell you though it's well made,not super smooth blued as it's alloy,but well finished.I get 140shots in .177 from a 200 bar fill.The gauge is pretty accurate better than the one on my S410 but still only use it for a reference,I wouldn't use it as an accurate guide when filling.A&M are a great company to deal with as well.There are certain unsubstanciated rumours about safety and people have said they have been turned away from their club because they have one fitted.If there was a safety issue I am sure they would not be allowed to sell them and I am more than pleased with mine.If you have any concerns give them a ring,they are really friendly.
    HTH,
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    Thanks for the reply :thumbup:
     
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    I bought one ages ago for Delores my HW100KT still haven't got round to fitting it must get round to it. Sat in bottom of my sock draw.
     
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    Get it fitted mate .then you can answer my questions lol :thumbup:
     
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    I've used an HW100 fitted with an A&M and it was much lighter than the vanilla version, the guy that owned it said the shot count had gone up by around a third but I didn't get a chance to test that claim out.
     
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    I've also been looking for a cylinder to go on my 100KT but will be giving the A&M a miss, I searched for hours and found a lot of people having issues with them. The titanium ones look a lot better but I can't be bothered taking the end caps off mine.
    If there are any others then please share :)
     
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    Good company to deal with and they transform the 100 handling no end.

    I will say the shot count on mine is actually no different though, and the standard hw gauge is better and more accurate inmo.

    But saying that Ive had a fair few years of trouble free shooting from my hw and I couldn't go back to a standard weight gun now since Ive had this not with a falcon scope fitted anyway lol it would weigh about 10 pounds.
     
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    I bought the karbine version last week,it certainly balances the rifle better but not sure how many more shots per charge you get from it.
     
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    Hi there the guage is accurate although smaller than the original, It's lighter bur not enough to make a huge difference but makes the balance a little better.Also doesn't have seal valve so if removed you loose all the air but the big bonus and why I bought one is doubled my shot count and that's in .177. Went from 3 mags to 6 so should be slightly better in .22 and A&M do excellent customer service. Hope this answers your question.
     
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    I take it that's with the karbine cyclinder
     
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    I got way more than that from my carbine - 5 and a half mag's IIRC.
     
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    A .177 standard carbine should give at least 4 mags (56 shots) unless the reg and hammer are not ballanced, and a low shot count (3 mags) is a sign of that.

    If you got your gun set up properly, you'd get a lot more shots per charge and they'd be very consistent ;)
     
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    Steve,what bar is the .177 karbine set at from factory
     
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    Yes mines a carbine running 11.5lbs over the chrono never been touched but pleased as it is. cheers
     
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    Hi Mikey, it will be around 95 BAR mate, i have my .177 set at 95 BAR and the .22 at 90 BAR ;)
     
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    You can still have it running at 11.5ft/lb but have more shots and better consistency.

    Some are set with a high reg pressure and low hammer tension, and some are set with low reg pressure and high hammer tension, both of these set ups will cause erratic shot strings.

    The reg needs to be set at between 90-95 BAR with hammer tension completely released, then hammer tension needs to be slowly increased until the required output is reached, this involves part stripping and adjusting, then chrono each time. Once the output is stable, it needs to be checked over a full charge for consistency.
    Very painstaking but, the results are well worth the effort, and if done properly, you'll have an incredibly consistent rifle with a decent shot count ;)
     
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    Swaped my karbine cylinder out and saved 400 grams iirc. This offset the weight of my bi-pod, which l was then happy to leave on constantly ;)

    My shot count went up about 25%, but the rifle does need to be setup a little better, when l get my finger out :rolleyes:
     
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    Tez, you could always pay me a visit and do mine at the same time :D
     

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