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$64,000 question

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Buzz, Aug 27, 2007.

  1. Buzz

    Buzz Banned

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    As you may (or may not) know, I am newly returned to air gunning after a few years away...like 45 years !!! I'm 61 now and got an Edgar Brothers Model 60 springer about 2 years ago. You don't have to tell me now that it wasn't a good choice, I've found that out the hard way, but it still does the job and I do enjoy shooting it....and so does my wife Jenny too. We have just gotten our shotgun certificates and are about to take up Clay Pigeon Shooting, with all the expense that entails, but I would like to buy a PCP rifle for rabbit and pigeon shooting.
    The question is, "Which gun and how do I fill it economically"? Like I said, with the expense of buying a couple of Beretta 686E's and all the ancilliaries, money isn't too plentiful at the moment, so the cost of the gun and it's associated equipment needs keeping as low as possible whilst still getting a reasonable piece of kit.
     
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    look for seconhand divers bottle try to get 12 litre 300 bar make sure its in test and theres a few bob saved i would personaly buy pcp second had if they are of some one you can trust long standing member of a forum etc even better if you can try them in the back garden first
     
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    one more thing mate make sure they are 177
     
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    More shots per fill .22 :D
     
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    What's this obsession with .177

    Buzz, get a .22 if you want to - they're not the work of the devil - in fact they're probably better for hunting, despite what many people say.
     
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    no buzz 177 is king i love it
     
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    This is general, but -

    .177 for target
    .22 for hunting

    Every gun shop I've ever been to has said this ...
     
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    177 for target or hunting in 12 fpe
     
  9. EX Mod Cog

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    A .22 retains more energy and has a greater effective range.

    The only down point is that you have a curvier trajectory, but this is easy to estimate.

    And if you're shooting from 20 yards or less, this isn't even a problem anyway.
     
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    behave you will have buzes head buzzing
     
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    Hi Buzz,There's lots of cheap s/h Air Arms S410's out there.
    The newer the better (older ones had minor bolt problems)
    Either calibre is suitable for hunting, although .177 can on occasion over penetrate without doing a great deal of damage.
    If you can be confident in your ability to take headshots,the choice of calibre is yours.
    There are various size air cyliders available,buy a 300 bar one.
    Filling is easy once you've done it a few times.
    Cheers.
     
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    Thanks guys...and TC I knew I was opening Pandoras Box when I asked the question, so I'm quite prepared to sit back and then go over the information later !! LOL
    All this Internet thing came a lot too late for me. I made far too many mistakes in the early days through not having enough advice, now I have the situation of having to sift through a lot of info, but it's far better than not having enough. Thanks again.

    I don't think I'm the world's best shot by any means, but I can hold a group to about a ten pence piece at 20/25yds and that's with my springer. The only thing that puts me off .177 is the lower number of shots per tank on PCP, I like the idea of the flatter tragectory, but at the ranges I like to work it doesn't make much difference I guess. See at my age I can't see much more than 25 yds without the scope anyways.
     
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    Practically every gun shop that say this has staff that don't actually shoot airguns.;):D You don't actually need to know a lot about airguns to know more than 95% of gunshop staff.;):D
    .22 or .177 is a matter of personal preference although it is an undeniable fact that .22 outsells .177 by a considerable margin. However, Matsui Hi-fi outsells Linn, Doesn't make it better!:D
     
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    .177, is the choice of champions ,both ft and hunting it is and
    always will be the number 1 calibre............end of...!!!!
     
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    for target obviously, but for hunting ...

    We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
     
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    well your the minority , when you have 30 years airgun experience
    you will realise how wrong you are, but untill then keep learning
    young whipper snapper.....:rolleyes:
     
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    I'll tell you when that day comes ...
     
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    ok , so untill then try to learn from people with experience , were only here to help and advise newcomers like yourself:D
     
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    Eh !!

    I've only been interested in air gunning for a few years, but I know a hell of a lot about it -

    Here's where I'm right ...

    Would you say that .177 is better for rats ?
     
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    killed loads of rats with 177 bonny lad
     

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