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4x4 Automatic Or Manual Gearbox?

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by Issac, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. gw8izr

    gw8izr Well-Known Member

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    Old traditional gearbox and transfer case, manual every day, if you compare them to the old b&w slush boxes of the era its clear to see why they were better, but those days are long gone. Modern autos made today combined with the associated traction aids are so much better in every way. Regardless of what might be thought, that includes fuel efficiency. Typical 9 speed box keeps the engine in the most fuel efficient area and the efficiency at lockup is excellent.

    My Polaris UTV is an auto and sits on four independent tracks and its proved itself unstoppable, auto every day :)

    (edit) that does not mean I would ever consider parting with my manual LR 90... which I plan to be buried in ;-)
     
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    r10hunter Honorary Member

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    I have had a couple of each type personally and we have both types on the farm. But I much prefer a manual, but I guess everyone’s driving is different and we all find one type or the other better.

    I started off road driving in 1983 in a series 3 Land Rover so some could be habit but I find the manual control of a clutch better in many situations.
     
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    keithy Posting Addict

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    I have a toyota hilux auto that has six gears it changes gear every few seconds when accelerating it would be a real pain with a manual gbx. I used my previous Toyota hilux surf auto to tow and launch a boat across soft sandy beaches, auto is a real boon as you can pull away very softly without digging a hole. Manuals tend to snatch and cause wheel spin which digs you in. The same on mud.
     
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  4. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    We had an automatic Vitara, a long as you can select low ratio and lock it in first or second you will be fine in most situations. Used ours for bunny bashing (had the bikini roof), superb in the big freeze of 2010 too (apart from the heater not working)....

    Fuel efficiency wise it was almost identical figures to that quoted for the manual...
     
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  5. gasman

    gasman Up a bit,,,,,,,

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    This :up:
     
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  6. tinmanofkent

    tinmanofkent Lagerfanny

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    If you want a 4x4 for towing trailers, as many people do, then get an auto.
     
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  7. Trampilot

    Trampilot Keyboard Hero

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    The salesman who sold me my Santa Fe said get an auto, its a big heavy car, you'll be forever changing gear.

    It's just done over 100k now and I'd say he was right.

    At odds with @tinmanofkent he also said get a manual if you are towing ... but I think that was more about the weight the manual can pull against the auto (for the Santa Fe).
     
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    no country members Tooled up tool

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    Most people who say manual is better have never owned a decent auto.

    As others have said autos are effortless to drive and add to this never stalling or fluffing a gear change plus no rolly back on hill starts.

    Auto is no brainer in any car with decent bhp on tap.

    I've had 4 and only drive a manual now because I could not find a suitable auto last time I changed cars. Mpg difference is not that great in reality. (Most 4x4s are terrible and will be low 20s to low 30s at best).
     
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    no country members Tooled up tool

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    On the X3 the XDrive favours rwd and the transfer case takes up the redistribution load as it moves to a max 50/50 fwd to rwd based on the wheel sensors so not clutch. Very flaky system full stop and is super sensitive to tyre type (fit BMW star marked only or you can get grabby juddery transfer box behaviour which if not sorted will kill the transfer case over time £££££££).

    I would not have another. Plus it was crap in the snow.
     
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    BallisticBill Posting Addict

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    Agreed! Even grabby with original tyres. I know it's controlled from the wheel sensors but the snatches can't do clutch, transfer box or gearbox any good... and, yes, my non-franchise BMW specialist has done a few replacement transfer boxes! £2+k :eek:
    Goes well on snow with chains on the rear wheels. Like you, I wouldn't have another.
     
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  11. Mr_Garth

    Mr_Garth Donator

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    manuals are for people who want to break their trannies by themselves =;
    Having said that, please make mine a manual.

    I know that current autoboxes (proper ones, so counting out anything with dsg in it ) work better than manuals even with off-road and pulling duties but I still prefer to be in control. US trucks being the expection, those should be automatics in my book

    - Garth

    Lähetetty minun SM-T515 laitteesta Tapatalkilla
     
  12. Mr wolf

    Mr wolf Sad times

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    And will also be the weakest link....if u go heavy,go auto
     
  13. Lev Levvin

    Lev Levvin Major Poster

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    Depends how old the 4x4 auto is...
    If it’s an old disco or pajero with Very basic systems it’ll guzzle fuel and be hard work off road...

    newer stuff is awesome off road and much better on fuel.

    my 2005 disco 3 does around 35 to gallon and really is outstanding off road with the Landrover dail-in systems
     

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