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4x4 Automatic Or Manual Gearbox?

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by Issac, Feb 15, 2020 at 12:45 PM.

  1. Issac

    Issac Posting Addict

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    Whilst searching through various websites I notice that a lot of 4x4's are Automatic.

    I have no issue in driving an auto and once owned a Mazda Bongo about 12 years ago which was auto and never gave any trouble.

    I would normally drive a manual box, but I would have so much more choice if I were to include automatics into my search.

    I am currently looking at Shoguns and Landcruisers. Anyone have any thoughts on the gearbox choice. I would use the car off road from time to time on fields etc nothing too harsh.


    Thanks very much.
     
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    I’ve got an automatic Mitsubishi Pajero 4x4 and it’s fine. However, they are usually less fuel efficient than a manual. Mine does about 18MPG!!!
     
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    Heavy off road work a clutch gives you more control.
     
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    Thanks for that.
     
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    Yes I was wondering about this, thank you.
     
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    I love my 4 x 4 auto, I can go anywhere in the snow when others are slip sliding all over the place and getting stuck on hills.

    Auto is wonderful! :up:

    In an off road environment I can see the advantages of manual though, my car has no ground clearance so would be awful in a field or over rough ground.
     
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    To no honest, if I had the choice I’d probably go manual for fuel efficiency and the same reasons @r10hunter said. Mine is my father in laws and I just drive it.
     
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    I've got a series 4 disco. Before that I had a 3. My wife bought me a days training to learn how to use it. You couldn't possibly believe where these things can go.

    I drive about four hundred miles in a day getting to France, several times a year and it just effortlessly gobbles up motorway miles.

    I also take it into the woods in all weather's. Into low ratio, select mud and ruts, lift the suspension. Foot off the throttle and steer. Never fails.

    Because my wife is a short arse, I can drop the suspension and she can get in. Two dogs, no problem. Fetch three quarter's of a tonne out of the woods in the back, no problem. Full trailer full of wood on the back, no problem. Six passengers, no problem. In short, it does everything, looks good and so far the two I've had have been as reliable if not more than any other car I've owned.

    I'll have another one, probably.

    Dave
     
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    Oh, yeah, regards fuel efficiency, it has an eight speed box, (the three has seven). For a car weighing upwards of 2 tonnes, low thirties isn't bad.

    Dave
     
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    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    I would no longer have a manual gearbox, the last one I had was a 4x4 LR Freelander II, it was a nice car, but a day out in Wales had me up and down the gearbox like a pole dancer on a Saturday night, since then I've had big autos and never looked back. Autos these days are so much better than they used to be, and so much more economical that now most autoes are actually more economic than the manual equivalent.
     
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    clutch clutch
     
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    My brother uses a Land Cruiser 4.2TD Auto for his off road expedition business and I've seen some of the terrain that he guides over from extremely steep and loose inclines in Iceland (that made my @rse pucker TBH) to soft sand in the Sahara - rarely does he get stuck, so I'd go for an auto box personally. Manual is arguably better for towing offroad, so depends if this is something you'd be doing.

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    Pulling or should I say reversing 4 tons on a trailer seems effortless with an automatic...with a manual it's something else...the clutch gets hot..lights and alarms telling me the clutch is overheating and that's only after a few meters on an incline..and then the horrible smell that lingers long after..
    I'd go with proper automatic transmission, but not a semiautomatic like some have..
     
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    Auto unless you are heavily into greenlaning etc
     
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    With the old 2-ratio boxes and diff locks a manual is the only one I'd consider. I used to tow horse trailers a lot, on and off road. I now have a BMW X3 manual and the X-drive is crap... very snatchy and probably puts a much higher load on the clutch. I wouldn't attempt to start with rated max load on a steep hill with the X3. I think the modern auto boxes are possibly a much better match to the electronic power sharing.
     
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    The reason that so many are automatics is that they are Chelsea tractors on the school run. The latest Landrovers are a case in point - they are for the yummy-mummy brigade. They aren't working vehicles any more.

    Off road, manual every time. Also factor in the horrendous expense of fixing a 4x4 auto gearbox.
     
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    How many still HGV's use manual gearbox?
    If we were still in the 80's I'd agree... but we're in 2020 now..
    Technology and design has improved.. I didn't say quality..not many garages do repairs anymore... they just replace components until the problem is solved...
    That includes gearboxes..
     
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    It's a shame autos are often more expensive than manual, or were. I've experience of off-road in both and prefer automatic, though I've pulled a good few fellow shooters in auto four-wheelers out of deep mud with a manual.
    As for on-road, I wish everyone drove an automatic--it'd cut down traffic hold-ups when most drivers waggling a daft stick, messing with clutches and buggering about with parking brakes. :D In a motorway tail-back an automatic is a gift...
     
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    Actually it is not true... as a matter of fact it is a myth which is repeated by many. Imagine driving up the high hill and you stop. Now try moving forward slowly with manual transmission. There are more examples specially in off-roading.
     
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  20. gasman

    gasman I Don’t like it !

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    Auto all day, I’ve had four jeeps now all auto I’d say it’s easier and better, less chance of slipping and starting a slide and much better on the cutch
     
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