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27 Hmr Aplication Queery

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by rosie 1, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. rosie 1

    rosie 1 Engaging Member

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    while filling in my fac aplication for a 17 hmr it askes which one i want ie a 17 hmr 4.5 mil or a 5.5 mil can anyone explain this as i have phoned my gun shop and they say they have never herd of it.has anyone on here herd of it....it apears in the drop down box thst you have to choose from....very confusing.
     
  2. JoeHeugh

    JoeHeugh Beware the Springer

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    My application was paper based where they ask you to put the calibre in imperial and metric, I just put .22LR. I think you could select .17 / 4.5 as 4.5 is closest. Any confusion you should be able to sort out during the visit.
     
  3. gasman

    gasman How do they know I've got Gas?

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    It’s just .17hmr, nothing else .17 or 4.5 can be several centre fire calibres
     
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    on the app that i have though you have to choose 1 or the other very confusing
     
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    Presumably you mean "online" application? a "herd" is a group of cows!

    17 HMR is a cartridge, 4.5mm or 5.5mm are calibers, it's not the same thing.

    Never having fully completed online before, the only time I tried was with a notification, the system was so full of bugs I gave up, so perhaps download the forms and complete them by hand and send in via recorded delivery.

    Anyways it doesn't matter that much as good reason is good reason and you will be interviewed as to why you want to acquire whatever you want to acquire face to face, at that point you can explain.
     
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    yep sorry about the "herd" I went to a bad school lol...and yes it is an on line form. It dosent even ask you were your permision is either and i would have thought it should have???(Lincolnshire)
     
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    Was that a school with a low standard of eductaion? or a school that taught bad things LOL!

    The land authority is usually downloadable in associated forms or the like, not every applicant will require one so it's usually an add on.
     
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    well i used to be an under keeper about 30 years ago and to obtain a firearm then you had to prove a written permission of the farmer and the address of the farm concerned to the police and then the feo would visit the farm to consider it safe for the said calibur before they would consider your aplication..think times have changed a bit lol
     
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    Just put what you know to be right, the Lincs system is quicker but isn’t infallible as I Have found doing 1-4-1 variations....
     
  10. metalman

    metalman Keyboard Hero

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    You still have to put down on the application where you are shooting be it club, or permissions with contact details, same as referees
     
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    buffy vampire slayer Keyboard Hero

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    the only choices you have in .17 HMR are related to projectile weight and manufacturer.
    an HMR is an HMR which is a rim fire cartridge and not a centrefire .17/4.5 cal.
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    I think they've probably done this because of cals like 308/7.62 & 223/5.56 but gone overboard with it, I had 7.62x51 on my licence & an rfd wouldn't let me buy a 308 off him until it was sorted, feo said "wtf"!
     
  13. buffy vampire slayer

    buffy vampire slayer Keyboard Hero

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    and I'm still putting 7.62 FMJ ball through my .308
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    This was all over a Steyr ssg, but that'll fire anything nato can churn out.
    The rfd was worried about a civvy worked not recognising the imp/metric system.
    I think they're better off not going into it to deep as it opens up a can of worms, like 38-40 actually being .41 calibre!
     
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    There is a ridiculous amount of unnecessary duplication on their online system. Just play the game, I have found they ring you if they don’t understand what you want or your application is self contradictory.....u:thumb:
     
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    gasman How do they know I've got Gas?

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    I wouldn’t worry too much, when the FAO comes round they will go though with you and helpfully change anything for you :thumb:
     
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    Thanks for that gasman.. I think they are putting stuff on the online forms just to make it so confusing so that you give up and not bother lol.
     
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    I'm finding that when i want to apply for a variation or have a FAC query Lincolnshire are very difficult to deal with.
    I used to be able to pop in at Nettleham HQ and ask to speak to someone from firearms and they would come down and have a f2f chat and all was sorted.
    Now they won't see you there in person, you have to go online :facepalm: and trawl through all the "drop downs£ which are so confusing.

    Whatever happened to the personal touch, did it get too expensive in terms of man hours?
    Anyway, we get there in the end but it could be so much easier. :rolleyes:
     
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  19. 2506sendero

    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    It seems to be a growing trend that as FAC holders it is becoming more & more difficult to get the appropriate information and help with any enquiries due to the usual cutbacks etc. but when you are dealing with mostly G4S staff that have very little knowledge of firearms legislation and will be working for minimum wage and expected to meet deadliines, should we really be all that surprised? :facepalm: :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm thinking "nail on head". :thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
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