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1st gun - Underlever or break barrel?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Beachcomber, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. Beachcomber

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    Hi all,

    Looking at getting a rifle - it will have to be a springer as I only want to lay out £150 - £200 initially.

    I remember hearing underlevers are more accurate than break barrels due to the fixed barrel / scope alignment. Is this true?

    Just getting back into shooting after a 25 year break (has it really been that long :eek:) and now my son is of an age to be trusted I'm looking at getting back into the sport with him so would appreciate any feedback.
     
  2. mattyts

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    Theres certainly logic in it,not sure to what extent it is noticeable.There are some nice underlevers about, Air Arms Pro Sports are my favourite but Weihrauch 97s are also worth considering.
     
  3. martin22

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    welcome,a good quality break barrel is just as accurate as any underlever,its more important to pick a rifle that you feel comfertable shouldering and feels right to you
    http://youtu.be/CHRRrFfp9CE
     
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  4. Beachcomber

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    Thanks for your replies - of course, it could well be hubris that the difference in accuracy will matter given my knackered eyes and wonky shoulder!

    One silly noob question - exactly how are you supposed to pronounce 'Weihrauch'? Just so I don't make an arse of myself in the local shop!
     
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    Round this way we say Why Rack
     
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    i allways prenounce it y-rak but some prenounce it vi-rak :rolleyes: i think the majority prenounce y though :up:
     
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    Vie rAwsh

    The rAw as in cow.
     
  8. Jackroadkill

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    Two hundred quid will get you a decent secondhand HW80 / 95 / 97, no problem. In fact, there's a nice HW77 for sale in the sales area of the forum for £130 at the moment. Get in there quick - it won't be there long at that price.

    Vye-row-ch!
     
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  9. Harwich Shooter

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    Like jackroadkill

    I pronounce it like the Germans would. Vy Row K (Row as in argument with the missus, and the K is soft like ch in scottish loch

    I lived in Germany for 2 years, once apon a long squaddie time ago.
     
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    :up: taken ol grumps 25 years to be able to spell Wiehrauch !!!!! call em HW,s :D if your going springer go HW , iv owned rifles from .270 powder burners to sub 177 air and all in between . Thee one rifle never leaving the rack is the mk1 HW77 i owned for 27 years . Enjoy air guns , stick with the forum You will be amazed what is available these days , Oh if you get hooked say good bye to disposable income :eek:
     
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    Oh, the irony!!!

    OP, I'm afraid that rifle has been sold - the seller has just posted that he's sold it. Still bargains come up all the time.
     
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    We seem to be there with the pronunciation but I always have a problem with the ch which is supposed to be a gh from the back of the throat. Agree with grumps and just call them an 'HW':)
    the easiest thing would be to ask for a TX200 its easier to pronounce and just as nice to shoot:D
     
  13. Patrick

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    In theory a fixed barrel underlever should inherently be more accurate but having owned and shot both types i've found no perceivable difference between an under lever and a break barrel with a decent lock up mechanism.As for pronunciation I've always pronounced it Vi Rark.
     
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  14. theobencarbine88

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    same as what patrick says. owned both and theres nothing to suggest a fixed barrell is any more accurate. (personal preference of break barrells for me, usually lighter, more compact and less of a faff to load) At the very cheap end of the market maybe its different though, an smkb2 break barrell will probably have some play in the breech lock up where as smk db4 underlever would be solid. i pronounce weihrauch - as 'v-i-a-rark' maybe not correct though :p

    And i may well be putting my hw95 up for sale in the near future as i got a theoben in the pipeline.
     
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    Theres a couple of cheap underlevers that spring to mind ( excuse the pun :p ) like the XS36 Underlever by SMK or the Hatsan Underlevers like the Dominator or Torpedos but no idea what they are like compared to the benchmark underlevers (TX200,HW97,Pro Sport)
     
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    Thanks again for the replies - very helpful:up:
     
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    There's a test in February's issue of AirGun World of the Hatsan Dominator but they are about £300 to buy new depending on what model you choose. Torpedo's are a bit cheaper about £250 I think.
     
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    Was going off this;
    http://www.*******.co.uk/hatsan-arm...air-rifles-for-sale-in-cheshi/Air-Guns/644942

    I think he's a trader with the description and pics

    EDIT : replace the *****s with gun*star (remove that star too! )
     
  19. paddyDT

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    Hi mate.
    The above is spot on, and i'm a fluent dual national.

    Just make sure of that lo"CH". The CH should rasp.

    I think the bigger question might be .177 or .22 having been in the same position as you a few months ago.

    BTW not intending to start that particular debate :). Do a search :up:
     

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