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.177 v.22 - Cleaner kills with .22?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Dunkman, May 3, 2012.

  1. Dunkman

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    I'm a dual calibre shooter and have been for 18 months now.

    One thing that I can't help but notice is that on Rabbits and Squirrels and despite getting accurate head shots, those shot with .177 seem to twitch a bit before finally being fully dead. With a .22, they jump and that's it-dead and gone but with .177 it does seem to take that little bit longer.

    I'm sure all the .177 shooters will say that's normal but for a dual calibre shooter, I have noticed the difference and as I stated this is with clean head shots, just a twitch or 2.

    Anyone else notice this or have any thoughts or opinions?
     
  2. bunnyblatter

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    My mate shoots .177 as does my lad and I use .22 and when I hit a rabbit or squirrel in the nut they very rarely twitch unlike if they get hit with .177 and they seem to do the invisible bicycle riding fora second or so !!
     
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    I have mainly shot .22 and Rabbits jump up and by the time they hit the ground they are dead as squirrels never know what's hit them but the .177 does seem to deliver a less devestating shot.
     
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    I've found this when i switched from .22 to 177, i was still getting good kills but did get more twitchers, i put some of it down to swapping calibres about this time of year and there being more young 'uns about, they seem to twitch and backflip no matter what you hit them with.

    I solved most of it by switching pellets to Bisley Magnums, they are a heavier weight and seem to give more of a thwack upon impact, i still get the odd on or two twitchers but certainly a lot less than before.
     
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    I first noticed it on rabbits but they were young ones but this week i've been culling squirrels in the garden from about 14 yards with the .177. Normally a .22 headshot to a squirrel just kils them clean dead and they fall but i've had them twitching and jumping for a second or so before expiring and examining the skulls they have been good head shots.
     
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    I agree bis mags solved the problem for me in .177...
     
  7. bunnyblatter

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    Maybe the .177 passes clean through with a lot smaller hole
    the .22 certainly makes more of a mess of the skull !!
     
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    i do all my shooting with a .22 and only ever had one that twitched alot,and that was the other night.the .22 seems to put them down quicker.
     
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    there is an old saying
    .177 for feathers - .22 for fur

    I also shoot with both calibers
    i find the .177 is more accurate than the .22
    but the .22 stops them dead in their tracks

    but i don't want to start a row over witch is the better caliber
     
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    Hi
    .177 is no more accurate than a.22 Its down to the shooter . You have got to know your set up with both cals ie gun ,scope ,pellet
     
  11. Dunkman

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    Totally agree. A .177 ALLOWS you to be more accurate (especially at longer ranges) but it isn't in itself more accurate and that's a big difference.
     
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    i shot .22 for years but now only shoot .177 as it suits me better i prefer it but it is personal choice i think .....and as long as your getting the kills i dont worry about a few twitches ......as for .177 for feather .22 for fur i do not believe a word of it ...as both calibers have there pros and cons...atb
     
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    well just to add my 177 AA 410 wont kill a rat from 40 yards it hits it with a whack the rat jumps up and runs under the chicken house
     
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    as i said i don't want to cause a row over it lol
    the saying .177 for feathers - .22 for fur is what i have only just heard
    and i don't know how true it is
    me personally what i meant to say was my .177 seems to be more accurate at longer distance
    but my .22 just seems to kill outright
    but i enjoy shooting both
    and also i am still experimenting with different pellets
    air arms so far seems good as gold
     
  15. nas-t-byker

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    I i agree with villaman..177 is easier to shoot at different ranges as the trajectory is flatter so there isnt all the guess work and aiming off.......... But .22 does deliver a thunder punch!
     
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    I do agree 22 stops them dead
     
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    so the germans use to say , the reason being is that 177 penetrates feathers as 22 is deflected of [bit like natural body armour]
    however with head shots the twitching is just nerves

    but saying this if its head shots both do the trick
     
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    yes it is ,thats why they use them in all the comps , at 40 or 50 yard its still possible to get finger nail groups [little finger ] with 177

    try doing that with any 22 ive shot all my life and i am well known in 2 clubs , and i am yet to see a 22 stay with a 177 over 40 yards [not a chance ]

    but as for squizzeers and rats ,the 22 has the heavy blow needed . that i am sure of
     
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    At 14 yds a flat headed .177 pellet will be just as good as a round headed .22. Try a RWS Mag .177 at close range or H&N hollow point.
     
  20. kentkami

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    Hi,My take on this is that if you hit the brain it is going down end of.A .22 dont have to hit smack on as bits of bone will enter the brain killing it but a.177 does not have the same effect eg smaller pellet less inpact force less bone moving inside the head.I hunt with both calibers and dont have a problem.I shoot to kill vermin{rabbits}for local landowners so it dont realy matter how long it take them to die.I know folks say clean kills but at the end of the day im there to kill rabbits and if it does a few rolls and bike peddles i dont care as it will be dead soon.Before you all get on ya soap boxes and say clean kill this clean kill that it dont happen all the time.As to all this is .22 better than .177 that is not the point {is it}the point is that you go out and provide a service for the landowner!!before folks say im cruel think of this,if i dont keep the rabbits in check the landowners just plough the burrows.
     

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