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.177 pellet choice @ 20ftp+

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Fxwhisper, Jun 13, 2008.

  1. Fxwhisper

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    Well my bsa superten arrived yesterday, at long last.

    after putting it on a chrono it was putting out a crappy 9.8ftp, thats a new rifle from bsa!!
    I thought about taking it back for a tune up, but then I wont see it for a week. So I made up some shimms out of a filler spreader and fitted them inside the regulator,while i was in the regulator I also made the exhaust valve 3mm longer.
    Two hours later we were on the chrono at 20.4ftp in 177 (thats a seriously fast pellet), thats more like it:up:

    Now I am having trouble with pellet choice. I have tried all the heavy pellets with a scattered effect.

    Air arms diablos seem to be the best, 2inch groups at 60yrds and Field target trophy are fairly close behind. I would like to get 1inch groups if poss?? am I expecting to much at 60yrds?

    anyone reccomend a pellet to go really fast:rolleyes:
     
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    Be careful, if the pellets go supersonic they'll become unstable and you'll loose all the accuracy!

    For the kind of power you'd need a heavy pellet, the heaviest you can get, hollowpoints wouldn't be a bad idea either, that's some muzzle energy you've got there :D
     
  3. andyhawkx3

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    Its best to use fac .177 at 18ftps, or like Cog says, your going to get, pellets, all over the shop (place)......a good pellet is bisley magnum, thinks it 10.5 grains, if you want to go heavy, try piledrivers at 21 grains. have fun;):D
     
  4. Fxwhisper

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    if I have to reduce the power I will, but I am going to try every pellet under the sun first:D

    I did try some 10.5g ultra magnums, but I couldnt constantly hit a A4 size paper @ 60yrds.
    The more I use the rifle, its starting to get closer groups with aa diablos. Is it possible a barrel can get better when its run in a bit:confused:?
     
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    If anything the barrel should get worse over time as stuff collects in it, but I'm not an expert :confused:
     
  6. Buzz

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    I'm sorry if this has been covered somewhere else, but is this gun registered on FAC ??
     
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    If not be happy with 11.5 fpe it does the job.
     
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    Going through all the relavant paperwork, and it will be registered on FAC monday tuesday. My local gun shop have offered to take it in till then, so I will take them up on that.:up:

    Would the copper tipped pellets be any more accurate at that kind of power:confused: I hear they keep their shape better at speed
     
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    You're not actually talking about mega pellet speeds if you use something in the 10 + grain bracket, it's only 950 ft/sec for 10 grain. I'm shooting H&N FTT's at 8.64 grains at 780 ft/sec, so you'd only be about 20% faster than mine....can't see a problem....just don't shoot light pellets.

    I thought you had to prove you needed an fac gun and have it approved BEFORE you got it...even for an existing FAC.
     
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    thats right you ave to state the land where you you intend to shoot it then the fao will check your land and check your home security and make sure you have a suitable cabinet then they will issue a certificate then you can go out and buy the gun what he has done is buy a sub 12ftlb gun and tune it up to fac power which is illegal unless you allready have an existing fac and a free slot on your fac for the gun but as long as the gun is kept with an rfd and he doesn't shoot it untill his fac is sorted he will be ok
     
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    And you wonder why anti-tamper screws are being fitted to airguns, there is far to-much of this going on:down:. Get the fac documents 1st, then get the gun:up:
     
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    Your right andy you should not raise the power until you've got the fac as now the gun has to be kept with an rfd untill you get the fac and if your fac is refused the rfd are not allowed to give you the gun back and you will have to pay them to reduce the power for you
     
  13. Buzz

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    This is just what I was getting at Andy but without actually making any accusations or putting both feet on my mouth. A1 was bollocked relentlessly for even intimating he might be doing something illegal (when he actually wasn't at all) and told he was portraying the whole shooting community in a very bad way....this post got nothing...why ?
    I fitted a new uprated spring to my Edgar Brothers model 60. Fired one pellet through it with the chrono attached, found it was over the limit and immediately put it back to what it was....why wouldn't anybody do the same ??
     
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    We don't actually have the full story here as there is a way around the fac there is a temporary certificate that you can get from the firearms department that allows you to keep but not use a firearm it's normally given out in the case of an fac holder passing away and his family being left with his guns and if for example airguns were all put on ticket owners would be given these certifcates whilst there fac applications were sorted out
     
  15. Buzz

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    That's the only reason I haven't deleted the thread jamjon...people on forums think they are annonymous...but many have found out different when the old bill comes knocking.
     
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    Well if he has a temporary exemption certificate then he is ok but if not then this is an illegal act and i agree that it should be deleted as we don't need the forum associated with that i await his response and hope that we are over reacting
     
  17. Fxwhisper

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    to clear things up I have a FAC licence for my rim fires, but the rifle has not been added to the certicate yet. It will be done
     
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    Then that is illegal as if you allready have rimfires you should know that you need to add the gun to the ticket before you buy it or raise the power on it you should have waited untill after the paperwork was complete this is a really bad example to be setting
     
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    Have we not got to the bottom of this yet ???
     
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    Yes he has upped the power before the paper work was completed which is ilegal
     

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