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177 or 22 pcp for rabbits and pigeons ?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by helicopter tail, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. helicopter tail

    helicopter tail Active Member

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    hi, if I was to get a s 410 would you get a 177 or 22 ? would be mainly rabbits and pigeons and the odd roland. what distance would it be capable at clean kills on rabbits?
     
  2. catman938

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    .177 in my opinion, and its all about a clean kill but at what range YOU can get the clean kill.
     
  3. Jfrwhite

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    Opinion is divided on this matter. From my limited experience I shall try to give you an unbiased overview of the calibres.
    .177 will have a flatter trajectory and will more than likely be easier to be accurate with and will perhaps give you a little extra range. This extra range would entirely depend on your capability to shoot accurately within the extended range though.
    .22 will hit a little harder but will have more of a pronounced arc trajectory and due to the added weight a slightly shorter range.
    Either calibre is capable of being used as a hunting calibre and the only real way to decide is to have a practise with both and see what suits you. Ultimately it comes down to your shooting ability.; you need to hit your quarry in the right place to ensure a clean kill. This comes from practise practise practise, learn your holdover/under points with your particular setup and then practise some more.
    and don't forget there are other calibres available; the "best if both worlds .20 and the probably best suited to ratting .25.
    i hope you enjoy finding out what suits you and then enjoy your safe shooting once you have your setup. Good luck to you and your bank balance.
     
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    And welcome to the forum, happy new year etc etc :)
     
  5. Ganton Gunner

    Ganton Gunner Super Duper Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    the best choice is the one you are most comfortable and confident shooting with and no-one can answer that but you
     
  6. Clubshot

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    .177 PCP - especially for New Shooters

    Many who shoot .22 think that they can hit targets further out - forgetting after 35 Metres on a Sub 12FP Rifle

    The Pellet is dropping -

    BOB/R
     
  7. Shropshire Shooter

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    I hope I'm not trying to teach Granny to suck eggs, but have you shot with an air rifle before? If not practice is more important than calibre (or the make and model of rifle for that matter).

    To ensure a clean kill you should be able to hit a target the size of a 5p piece, time and time again, at whatever range (because of trajectory this also means being able to accurately judge the range) until it becomes second nature, before you shoot at anything with a pulse

    It sounds like hard graft, but believe me, you'll find it very satisfying and you'll get there in the end.

    PS - I'd also recommend .177 to start with, and you won't go far wrong with the S410.
     
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    essex sniper Banned

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    The caliber that suits you best and you prefer and are more confident with is the calibre you need to buy ..I use .177
     
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    thanks for replies people. I am new to the forum so still getting to grips with it. would you recommend spending a bit more to get a multi shot, just think it would be handy sometimes when you knock one down and still have one sitting there looking round trying to work out what's going on lol.
     
  10. Stevie Darling

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    Each has its pros and con's,

    Use the one you can constantly hit a 5p at your longest range:)
     
  11. Shropshire Shooter

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    To my mind the main reason for a multi-shot is to ensure that you've always got a second shot available when the first one has quite done its job (and it happens to all of us unfortunately).

    You will want a multi-shot eventually so it will work out cheaper in the long term than replacing the rifle or fitting an after-market multi-shot conversion.
     
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    hi there, I do have a 22 springer and have had it for a few years but am going to do a bit more rabbit/pigeon/ratting and not confident of it hitting every time as it tends to be a bit inaccurate think its due to the recoil. just like the idea of the accuracy of a pcp. any advise welcome mate (you never stop learning !).
     
  13. helicopter tail

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    hi, this is for sale close to me would it be a good buy ? I know its single shot (but if its not a bad price)
    [h=2]Air Arms 400 carbine .22 (5.5mm)[/h]The gun comes with a case, scope mount and scope
    This rifle has had very little use and is presented in an "as new" state
    I believe that I've only refilled the cylinder 2/3 times and I'm on my first tin of pellets!!
    The rifle has just had a service and a couple of new seals were put in
    £ 350
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  14. Shropshire Shooter

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    Nothing better to practice with than a springer - I've got a TX200 that I only use for practice on targets. It's a lovely rifle to shoot but for live quarry I stick to my PCPs because I'm more accurate with them. If you can shoot well with your springer then you've got a head start when it comes to hunting with a decent PCP
     
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    what about the add I just posted what do you think?
     
  16. Shropshire Shooter

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    I honestly don't know what would be good price for it these days, and it doesn't mention what sort of scope or if it's fitted with a moderator (which you WILL want for hunting). If it was me I'd be curious about a rifle being sold "as new", that's only been refilled 2/3 times, needing a service and replacement seals.

    If I were you I'd spend a bit of time browsing the "For Sale" pages on here to see what's available and average prices.
     
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    Doesnt matter, they both do the same thing If you put the pellet Where it should go.

    I only buy a certain calibre now, going on its benefits to the individual rifle.
     
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    So do you already have it?
    Dag
     
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    with regards to this forum this is as good as it gets, air gunning forums don't come any better than this, so read and read and read mate, its a mine of info on here.
     
  20. Shropshire Shooter

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    I think he was quoting the ad.
     

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