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.177 Milbro Foreign

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by dwc65, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. T 20

    T 20 Busy Member

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    That's correct, Milbro were the official importers of Diana Airguns before WW2 which is one reason the UK government gave them the confiscated Diana airgun production machinery after WW2.

    With your gun being marked as "Foreign" it is most probably is a German made Diana 27 from around 1930 that was imported by Milbro and sold under the Milbro brand name.

    Post war Milbros weren't stamped as "Forein" as they were produced in Motherwell, Scotland.



    All the best Mick
     
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    Thank you Mick that is very useful.
    Regards Dave
     
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    Nice to see you over here Mick..:up:
     
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    Hi everyone
    Firstly can I thank you for your help and suggestions.
    Having done a bit more research it appears that my Milbro Foreign 027E was indeed a copy of the Diana 27E a pre-war export version.
    It has been interesting and enlightening researching this gun.
    Thanks again Dave


    Diana Model-27 - Export version post-WW1

    Diana 27e.jpg 5b769d90fa386c8c9c857df4aff0cf0f.jpg
     
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    Glad to hear you found out the origin of the gun, I was 99% sure it was based on the model 27 which is a lovely shooting gun not always about power, and 90 years on still a beauty.

    Cheers

    Trooper
     
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    Thank you as you say for a gun so old to work so well is impressive.
    Take care Dave
     
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    Hi

    I have one similar and had another which was marked exactly as yours but it's now gone elsewhere!

    This is the one that's marked the same as yours but the stock is different (It's the one that's elsewhere now!)
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    This is the other one, I was told it's a Diana mod27 export (Better quality stock!)..

    This one isn't marked with anything, I presume it was etched and long since worn away, There's a couple of differences though, The trigger block flat sides don't curve down'ards at the rear and the barrel axis bolt has a keeper screw!
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    The keeper screw was missing when I received the gun :(
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    Sorry about the rubbish pics, I'm rubbish with a camera :confused:

    EDIT- Just saw that you found the 27 Export!! :thumb:

    John :)
     
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    Thank you John the pic's are great.
    Yes thanks to people pointing me in the right direction I managed to match them up.
    Regards Dave
     
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    Very nice rifle, 38/3 = £1.91 in today's money!
     
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    If only air rifles were that cheap lol.
    Inflation you’ve got to love it
     
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    As a matter of interest johnbaz what is the serial number of your Milbro rifle(standard stock) as I have one exactly the same.
     
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    pjbingham Prime Kentish Beef

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    B4BECE11-161C-47E0-B56C-36A3E04EA198.png It was seeing one of JohnBaz’s photos that prompted me to buy something similar of my own
     
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    Looks in nice order is it all original finish ?.
    Is it a Diana or Milbro.
     
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    I will have to take a look but I don’t think it’s marked up as either. I’m sure that some were stamped Millita and some just said Foriegn. I know that on various models if you remove the cocking arm you will see a number which is basically a date, from memory mine says 330 so March 1930 :up:
    Yes the the finish is completely original, the photo makes it look slightly better than in the flesh but it is a clean one.
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Post WW2 things got mighty complicated with Milbro and Diana. Milbro made a lot of Diana rifles in Scotland. At the same time Mayer and Grammelspacher retooled and started producing air rifles. Because the Diana name was now owned by Milbro they called the rifles "Originals" as in Original Diana. When Milbro eventually went belly to the sky after producing decades of crap with Diana plastered over it, Mayer and Grammelspacher bought the name back....
     
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    Mine is marked Milbro and Foreign like Dave's and johnbaz's gun no date marking but serial numbered on barrel,action block,trigger guard,cocking arm,stock and cylinder
     
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    my name is Tony I am new to collecting air rifles but started collecting Milbro Diana's I have them from Mod 1 through to the Mod 27 , I have just got a very old pre war Milbro marked foreign but it is not big enough to be a Mod 27 did they import smaller models, its in very poor condition , very rusty trigger guard missing etc , can anyone help ?
     
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    Anything marked 'Foreign' and imported into the UK was NOT made in Germany. All other countries produce was but Germany was a special case under British ( and I believe USA) law and had to be marked specifically with it's German Origins. I think this lasted until we adopted EU law in the early 1980s
     
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