Decoying Woodies?

[andyhawkx3]

I agree Ian, infact I'm beginning to think that everything is a 'grey area' these days.

Ah well, at least we're European now eh?

Yer that's a worrying thing ... thinking that as Poacher, as already posted that you cant shoot any animal in France with a airgun

[greg]

To bait any birds or animals in to a area, and said birds or animals is doing no harm/damage to crops or property, in order to shoot hit is immoral and illegal in my mind.

We air-gunners only have, on the general licence permission to kill proven PEST animals.

Our sport, is under threat at this very moment in time ...think about this in your own minds what is right, or wrong.

as i have said before i only shoot quarry that i have agreed with the land owner to be a pest ,i never shoot for no reason and never in me garden.
ok baiting maybe unsportting but after trying all other methods, i use it to try and get the birds closser and away from the crop.

[greg]

OK just to be a pain in the butt, , but i enjoy a good debate, or try and get the longest thread. Feel free to ignore as this has been going on for a while.
WHAT IF YOU NOTICE SOME DAMAGE CROP ON THE SIDE OF THE FIELD AND ITS OK BY THE OWNER CAN YOU TAKE THIS AND USE TO BRING THEM IN

SORRY BUT ASKING FOR FUN

[Poacher]

All laws are subject to interpretation. My interpretation is that baiting wood pigeons with any introduced food is unlawful.

There are also two other considerations; One, it is likely to be viewed in a negative way by the public at large. Two, it is entirely unnecessary. If you can't lure wood pigeons with decoys, or have the skills to shoot them out of sitty trees then you need to learn the skills required. Not to resort to unlawful and dubious practices.

[greg]

as i have said before i do use all other methods and on a whole quiet rewading. but not all fields have sitty trees. and sometimes the deeks just don't do the job.
I have gathered from this informative and enjoyable thread that there needs some propper advice to help everyone.
I DO TRY TO KEEP TO ALL REGULATIONS AND TO HAVE A SAFE AND ENJOYABLE SPORT AS I LOVE IT.

[Simmmo]

Not pigeons but food for thought

and again .

I used to keep hens and racers much safer to kill.

Monkey

[D4V1D]

Not pigeons but food for thought

and again .

I used to keep hens and racers much safer to kill.

Monkey

[andyhawkx3]

Not pigeons but food for thought

and again .

I used to keep hens and racers much safer to kill.

Monkey

Thank you Sir.

This is what I said, about testing the laws now as then, the laws has been tested by the RSPCA and RSPCB, especially in this case starling (The laws have never been black and white)...I buy best wheat from my permitted shooting ground to feed (And I say feed, not bait in) all wild birds, in my garden including collared doves and pigeons to have a added supplement to there diet helping them through the winter and nesting times ...not as target practice.

[D4V1D]

Well you guy's have got to have a read of AIRGUN shooter summer 2010. £3.50. After all that we have learnt from this thread, The mag's are still getting it wrong in my/the laws eyes.

Title of the story is HOME GUARD page 80 Air Gun Shooter. The story start's of well enough, with a pesty pigeon or pigeon's, after his onions. Mat tried netting the onions but was horrified to find that the pigeons had got under the netting. He tryed to scare the pigeon off by shouting at the pigeon after it in had got under the netting. The pigeon was indeed scrared off. It was back with in 10 minutes under the netting. So at this point Mat "feels that he has statisfied the requirements of the General Licence which governs the control of specified avian pests. protection and scaring had failed to discourage the bird from damaging my crop." he goes on to say.
His next step is where I think that he fails to up hold his arguement. He places a patio slab by his veg patch and places a handfull of poultry grain in front of it. It is clearly shown to be out side of the netting. Clearly this is baiting them into his garden. If he had just carried on and shot the pigeons that had got under the netting again that would of been lawfull, but to bait them in with a handfull of poutry grain is clearly baiting. It may even attract more pigeons in which may never have landed in the first place. What do you guys thing.