I just got a written warning....need advice

[airgunner87]

Hi all,
Anyone know about employment law??
I just had a written warning without any notice. It just dropped on the door mat with my pay slip.
Do they need to give me any notice first??
thanks

[Barcelona68]

Usually it's verbal warning before a written warning is issued.

Been a naughty boy then?

[peteb823]

Have you had an official verbal warning for anything ? And no mention of a warning before you got the letter then , its a bit ruthless, I've just broke up for Xmas if you get no advice from any others,I am a shop steward if I can get into the office next week I will try and check it out, it does sometimes depend where you work and the policy , but I don't think it would stand if no recorded verbal warning has been given. Hope this helps.
Pete

oh dear me ! she's not happy !

[Green Job]

There should also be a formal meeting to discuss WHY you are getting one BEFORE it is issued!

There should also be a paragraph in your letter stating that you have a right to appeal the decision. If, as you say, this dropped on your mat with no prior warning then I suggest you appeal and ask :

1) On what grounds the written was issued.

2) What investigation was carried out to determine your guilt.

3) A copy of ALL notes leading to the warning being issued.

4) Why your were not given the opportunity that you are entitled to BY LAW to state your case and to defend
the allegations.

DON'T take this lying down - I don't know your circumstances, but given what you say and not knowing anything else, that is my advice.

Employers DO NOT have to give a verbal first. In fact they could have issued either a first and final OR summary dismissal.

If you need any other help PM me.

[airgunner87]

Thanks for your help guys its a massive help

[old lad]

Check your contract of employment before you do anything else. Usual procedure is first, second and final warnings.

It's a bit off to send out a warning by post without some form of discussion between yourself and management though?

[Green Job]

Check your contract of employment before you do anything else. Usual procedure is first, second and final warnings.

The procedure is not how it has to go - there does not have to be a sequence of events as you listed.

If the issue is serious enough, ANY employer can forego ANY of the steps - they just have to carry out the correct procedure as laid down in employment law - trust me on this issue - I deal with stuff like this at least three times per week!

[andyhawkx3]

Usually it's verbal warning before a written warning is issued.

Been a naughty boy then?

You can get a 'verbal warning in writing' as Barc say's but they 'must' give 'A' verbal's before a written, contact you union, pass a copy of this to them, plus your signed statement, of what happened.

[old lad]

trust me on this issue - I deal with stuff like this at least three times per week!

I trust you.

However, if an employer disregards an employees contract of employment they then leave themselves open to tribunal proceedings.

[andyhawkx3]

Have you had an official verbal warning for anything ? And no mention of a warning before you got the letter then , its a bit ruthless, I've just broke up for Xmas if you get no advice from any others,I am a shop steward if I can get into the office next week I will try and check it out, it does sometimes depend where you work and the policy , but I don't think it would stand if no recorded verbal warning has been given. Hope this helps.
Pete

oh dear me ! she's not happy !

If You, are a shop stewart .. the company must inform, your area union senior official .. as you you should know .. you will be on the same official level as your top level boss, in other word's you can tell him/her to 'F' off 'in private' (But only man to man) .. don't put the last message in writing to your boss, or you will get the push