gun.p.freak and other people with half a story

[ming]

Well i guess this place is a bit like a school playground populated by kids or people with the mental age of kids. gun.p.freak and his little chums with only half a story.

first - i was selling the gun for a 3rd party - i went to 3rd party with gun.p.freaks offer and was told by 3rd party that he wanted a face to face.

second - if i had sent the gun to Mr Gun.p.freak then how do i know that hes not a 14 year old kid after all he is on this forum acting like one.

third - some of the forum members were asking me to post the gun to them - i believe this to be illegal.

forth - i never once said to gun.p.freak that the gun was his.

i had 8 or 9 people PM me about that gun and i never sent any of them a PM to say it was sold but i did asap edit the thread to say it was gone. as for all the people who have posted on gun.p.freaks thread saying bad things about me with only half a story then shame on you. also is the mod a friend of yours gun.p.freak or is he just not very good at his job?

[Tadpole]

'some of the forum members were asking me to post the gun to them - i believe this to be illegal'.

No it's not illegal to post a gun (as long as the recipient is over eighteen & not prohibited in law against owning a gun) as many members do on a daily basis hth ..............

[Titchgamer]

Well i guess this place is a bit like a school playground populated by kids or people with the mental age of kids. gun.p.freak and his little chums with only half a story.

first - i was selling the gun for a 3rd party - i went to 3rd party with gun.p.freaks offer and was told by 3rd party that he wanted a face to face.

second - if i had sent the gun to Mr Gun.p.freak then how do i know that hes not a 14 year old kid after all he is on this forum acting like one.

third - some of the forum members were asking me to post the gun to them - i believe this to be illegal.

forth - i never once said to gun.p.freak that the gun was his.

i had 8 or 9 people PM me about that gun and i never sent any of them a PM to say it was sold but i did asap edit the thread to say it was gone. as for all the people who have posted on gun.p.freaks thread saying bad things about me with only half a story then shame on you. also is the mod a friend of yours gun.p.freak or is he just not very good at his job?

1st) You should of made it clear it was for a 3rd party, either way you are the one responsible for the sales add if you post it.
2nd) You dont, you have to check/verify.
3rd) No its perfectly legal as long as you are not a RFD.
4th) Fair enough.

As for the sale, rules say whoever posts first gets it or atleast first refusal on it, The deal you made for the gun was under the table so to speak and I suggest you dont bring a moderators integrity into things for doing his job which I will add he does out of the goodness of his heart and receives no payment or reward for.

[tatsumi]

We deal with a range of issues daily including complaints of poor sales etiquette.

Im not going to go into the details of this case on open forum but please feel free to contact us should you wish to dispute the negative feed back given by a member.

All members/guests of the forum are valued(including your self) here and we take a very active interest im makeing sure the sales and swaps of equipment goes smooth and people are protected to the best of our ability.

Again if you feel you would like to talk about this feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,
Ian

[Andy]

This whole thing is because you never read the rules, or chose to ignore them.

[brett1985]

ive been on this forum for 2 years or so now, and not once have i had a problem with the mods......
ive had dealings with them, bought and sold items from/to them and found them to be fair and honest.
they do not take sides, even if they know someone and are friends with them, point in case- i recieved an infraction, the same as anyone else should for advertising elsewhere. my bad, and i accept responsability for it it. the infraction came from nuffield who i have swapped bits with and think is a top bloke! the point im trying to make is that even though i know him, i was still treated the way anyone else would have been. no preferential treatment.....

to try and say anything different is ridiculous.... the mods on here are sh*t hot, as im sure everyone else will agree

[Taff777]

Well i guess this place is a bit like a school playground populated by kids or people with the mental age of kids. gun.p.freak and his little chums with only half a story.

also is the mod a friend of yours gun.p.freak or is he just not very good at his job?

I have no idea what has happened with your sale - have not read/seen any of it - but I dont feel I need to - to make the following comments to your post:-

Firstly - you are completely out of order making this comment - dont tar us all with the same brush mate. In my experience the majority of users of this forum are good folk - with a common enjoyment of airguns.

Secondly - in all my time on this forum I've had nothing but respect and gratitude for the admin and mods - they all do an excellent (and unbiased) job.

Thirdly, from your rant above - it's you who sounds like you are in a school playground. I don’t know anyone involved here – I’m just giving my own, unbiased view point.

Finally – if you don’t like this forum then there are others who, I’m sure, would welcome you. Personally – I think it’s great (and its members, admin and mods).

There – that’s my rant in response to yours!!
atb -Taff

[Egg]

All issues with the sale/non-sale aside (as it's none of my business and I wasn't involved in it) - the mods on this forum are decent and fair compared to other forums I'm a member of (not just shooting ones I must add).

They hardly seem like they're there half the time (which is the sign of good moderating - there's none of this feeling of "Big Brother is Watching You" that prevails elsewhere) but they are there and when they do post in open forum, they usually post like any other member would: ask/answer questions; have a laugh along with the other members; make comments on posts - that sort of thing. Obviously they turn up when something needs sorting out.

I don't think the guy that has a dispute with the OP has been here long enough to make pals with a moderator - or any other member for that matter - so saying he has the equivalent of a moderator in his pocket is unfair and, well, a bit childish.

[ming]

@taff777 i think you got the wrong end of the stick - the post was aimed at people who commented on a thread started by gun.p.freak. in this thread i was bad mouthed and then the thread was locked before i had chance to defend my self by the mod in question.

i will hold my hands up and say sorry to the mod as i think my comments were said in anger and do not reflect the work he does.

i dont know what sort of gentlemens code you are running here, but as the seller its upto me who gets the sale, isnt it? lets face it i wanted the quickest best deal and the 3rd party then told me that they wanted a face to face sale. i understand that i could have delt with the sale better in hindsight.

i have no problem with the bad sales rating from gun.p.freak but i do have a problem with the thread then put on to bad mouth me and all the people who then joined in when they only had half a story.

as for me being childish i think your getting that mixed up with being mighty pissed. the buyer should get all the protection but the seller none?. just because someone posts they want it dont mean im going to sell to them now does it. were are my rights as the seller in all this?

[Titchgamer]

The forum rules clearly state:

(Listing)
Do not list items for sale or swap on this forum that you have listed elsewhere. This was introduced as multiple cross forum listings causes many problems and especially when a user says i'll take it, only to be told it was sold on another forum.
All items advertised on airgunforum.co.uk must be available "Exclusively" to our members, so by advertising elsewhere you can not guarantee your item would be available.
You can however list items if you have multiples of the same items, or you are making multiples of items for sale.
Users who list elsewhere as well as here will get their add deleted, they may also receive a one month ban.
Do not list items for sale on behalf of other people, you must own the item that is for sale.

(Buyer/s) First to say they will have it by PM or on the for sale thread gets the item at the advertised price.

Those are the rules which everyone (including mods/admin) Must adhere to.

You should of already read these rules but just for reference here is the full document:
http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/...rum-rules.html

P.S. thanks for all the kind comments guys, I (as ime sure all of the team do) Appreciate it.