• .177 Versus .22 Calibre - A "Newbies" Simple Guide!!!!

      .177 Versus .22 Calibre – Which one?
      This must be the most asked question on the forum!!!
      Newbies ask, “I want to buy a gun for Hunting/Target/Plinking , what is the best calibre?”
      There is no right or wrong answer! Everybody has their own preference and sometimes the flood of answers can be really confusing. Flat trajectory, Loopy trajectory, harder hitting etc…. so I am going to try and explain it really simple. Please feel free to expand on this if I have missed something.

      .177 Calibre.
      I have heard so many myths about this calibre, heard it called a “girlies calibre” etc… and it is very popular on the target scene because of it’s FLATTER trajectory, more on that in a minute. There is nothing wrong, in my opinion, with using this calibre for hunting, it will take rabbits out to a fair range, there are lots of variables to consider though. Weight of pellet, effects of wind, and what you zero the rifle to. OK….. for the purpose of this article, I am going to stick to one type of pellet, zero’d at 35 yards, Muzzle energy of 11.5ft lbs, no wind to complicate things, same scope height etc…
      FLATTER TRAJECTORY: If you zero your rifle at 35 yards, and we assume a rabbit’s brain (best kill point) is 1 inch in diameter, when you shoot placing your cross hairs smack on the middle of the kill point, you can expect the pellet to be within that 1 inch circle from 9yards to 40yards, so in theory if you can judge the rabbit is within that 40 yard range, your scope is zero’d smack on you should kill that rabbit aiming at the middle point anywhere from 9 – 40 yards. As far as power is concerned, my esteemed fellow forum members have agreed (in another thread) that it takes 3.5ft lbs to penetrate a rabbit. IN THEORY at 70 yards, these pellets have 5ft lbs of energy BUT you will have to aim 9 inches above the kill point ( called “hold over”) to hit it! So in my opinion, “can you use .177 for hunting? “ I would say most certainly YES!
      I would not advocate (as a newbie) trying to take rabbits at 70 yards, brush up on your stalking skills and get closer!
      This is the chairgun software readout for .177 to 50 yards. The red zone is referring to a kill zone of one inch. The curved line is the trajectory of the pellet.


      .22 calibre
      To keep it a fair comparison, I have kept all the variables the same, even the muzzle energy and pellet. OK…… You have zero’d your rifle to 35 yards, to hit that 1 inch target, you aim smack in the middle at 5.6 yards to 11.8 yards. After this, because of the “loopy trajectory” you have to use “hold under” in varying degrees, depending on range, of up to one and a quarter inches, because if you aim smack on, your pellet will hit one and a quarter inches high. This is applicable until you get to 31.8 yards when again you will be in the 1 inch kill zone again, and this applies through to 37.6 yards when the pellet starts to drop and “hold over” comes into effect. At 70 yards the pellet will have dropped over 15 inches!
      The Muzzle energy at 70 yards is 6.5 ft lbs, so again, IN THEORY, will kill a rabbit.
      This is the chairgun software readout for .22 to 50 yards. The red zone is referring to a kill zone of one inch. The curved line is the trajectory of the pellet.


      So in conclusion, which calibre is best? NONE, in my opinion they are both rabbit stoppers, at decent ranges, up to 40 yards they will both hit the kill zone within half an inch. The .22 needs a little more practice to get used to the trajectory, more so over 40 yards. So it boils down to personal choice.
      If you are JUST target shooting, perhaps I would advice to go for .177 BUT I learnt with a .22 so I can use it for both target and hunting, but you can see my choice is .177 for my main hunting guns, but I would have no hesitation taking a .22 hunting if I wanted or needed to.

      I wait for my esteemed colleagues input.................................LOL!
      This article was originally published in forum thread: .177 Versus .22 Calibre - A "Newbies" Simple Guide!!!! started by SteveB View original post
      Comments 15 Comments
      1. Poison Dwarf's Avatar
        Poison Dwarf -
        you forgot the best sub 12ft/lb hunting calibre. .20
      1. SteveB's Avatar
        SteveB -
        Explained in the original thread Buddy!
      1. tintin40's Avatar
        tintin40 -
        Should you have included .20 & .25 cal also for this?
      1. SteveB's Avatar
        SteveB -
        Follow the link to the original thread, it is on there.
      1. tintin40's Avatar
        tintin40 -
        Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
        Follow the link to the original thread, it is on there.

        Sorry need to get eyes tested. didn't see
      1. Pinecrofter's Avatar
        Pinecrofter -
        The attachments (graphs) appear to be broken (click on them gives me a 404 error)
      1. SteveB's Avatar
        SteveB -
        Just tried them they seem to be working!
        Can A Mod check it for me please?
      1. Pinecrofter's Avatar
        Pinecrofter -
        Hmm. Those attachments are fine now, except that the images are a bit small to easily make out the figures. The curve is clear enough though, and that's what counts.
      1. requoil's Avatar
        requoil -
        Advocates off the .22 calibre who don't mind the "loopy" trajectory because the like the knockdown should shoot .25 as it is even loopier and has even more knockdown. .177 is flatter, cheaper, and has plenty of energy left at ranges where many shooters wouldn't hit the target. .20 is a waste of good lead, not as flat as a .177 and not as hard hitting energy retentive as a .22 so the .20 cal should be left to those who don't know any better.
      1. lefizz's Avatar
        lefizz -
        OK, here's an intersting one. I live in Spain so i get about 18ft/lbs to play with so which would you recommend for hunting with the extra power available. Would the extra energy flatten the flight path? I am thinking it would. Also i am going to buy a Cometa Fenix or fusion which also come in .25 Of course the real fly in the ointment is you can't hunt with any air weapons in Spain 'legally' but still, what would you recommend.
      1. Andrew_breckill's Avatar
        Andrew_breckill -
        Quote Originally Posted by lefizz View Post
        OK, here's an intersting one. I live in Spain so i get about 18ft/lbs to play with so which would you recommend for hunting with the extra power available. Would the extra energy flatten the flight path? I am thinking it would. Also i am going to buy a Cometa Fenix or fusion which also come in .25 Of course the real fly in the ointment is you can't hunt with any air weapons in Spain 'legally' but still, what would you recommend.
        I'd recomend .20 for 18 ft lb
      1. shepp's Avatar
        shepp -
        Reply to post 10
        Utter nonsense, .20 is the ULTIMATE sub 12ftlb caliber.
        It can do everything a .22 can do but with a flatter trajectory, if spring airguns were invented tomorrow, then they would be .20
      1. lefizz's Avatar
        lefizz -
        Now now. I imagine that .177 is a a little tricky on 18ftlbs since it would be easy to go supersonic.Is it just a case of using heavier pellets to stop this or is there a trade off. Maybe .22 then?
      1. Autumn Springer's Avatar
        Autumn Springer -
        All interesting comments. Being an "oldie" and therefore fairly traditional, I like .22 for my sub 12 ft/lbs rifle (HW35KLS) and .177 for the pistol but then I'm not hunting so it's only embarrassing if I miss!


        Having just returned from a practice at M.A.D. which is very open and exposed to the wind, it seems as though head winds and tail winds are just as significant at 25-40 yards with a sub 12ft/lb rifle in .22 as are cross winds. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
      1. Scaramanga's Avatar
        Scaramanga -
        Quote Originally Posted by lefizz View Post
        OK, here's an intersting one. I live in Spain so i get about 18ft/lbs to play with so which would you recommend for hunting with the extra power available. Would the extra energy flatten the flight path? I am thinking it would. Also i am going to buy a Cometa Fenix or fusion which also come in .25 Of course the real fly in the ointment is you can't hunt with any air weapons in Spain 'legally' but still, what would you recommend.
        That is why all the dealers sell hollow point pellets!! I have a HW97K in .25 - sure packs a wallop.