question pellet lubrication

[Mike1]

I have cleaning fluid in the napier cleaning kit my mrs bought me, so that isn't a problem.
how many shots after cleaning a barrel does it take to reline it?

About 20-30 or until your groups have settled.

I'm not adamant about anything, I just want to be sure that something is going to work before I try it.
you said that there was no difference when using the JSB exacts, which is exactly what I will be using so there is obviously no need for any pellet lube.

It really doesn't matter to me if you lube or not. Most on here are prepared to share experiences and gain knowledge, and keep an open mind. You can never be sure what will be the effect of an action from 1 gun to another. The problem with airguns are there are many variables. What works in my 97 may not work in yours. For instance mine prefers 7.9 Mosquitos which are no longer avaiable and the nearest I have found so far is JSB 7.9, elsewhere you said yours prefers AA 8.4? is that because yours has done 1000? pellets and mine 30,000? or is it because we have different trigger adjustments, stocks, hold, experience, shooting position, shooting conditions etc. etc. Even when you have tried something, another variable may change and may result in a different effect. All part of the fun

[Accuspell]

I have cleaning fluid in the napier cleaning kit my mrs bought me, so that isn't a problem.
how many shots after cleaning a barrel does it take to reline it?
I'm not adamant about anything, I just want to be sure that something is going to work before I try it.
you said that there was no difference when using the JSB exacts, which is exactly what I will be using so there is obviously no need for any pellet lube.

You can't be CERTAIn that something will work in your rifle combo simply because it works in others. What other people have found might give you a pointer as to whether it is worth a try or no, but nothing is certain.

An example. I tried Defiants in my T10, they are AWESOME, 5p group at 50 yards. However, it took nearly 100 pellets to get to that stage. many shooters would have given up at the 3" groups that were being printed before the pellets really started to work. I discovered that they only work in clean barrels and it took those 100 shots to scrub the rifling out to THEIR satisfaction. After that they worked like nothing else. It took experimentation with different head sizes too, the 5.53 head size worked perfectly, the 5.52 head size tried straight after didn't group at all. They are made of the same alloy, so it wasn't a lining of the barrel problem, it was purely the fit in the barrel. Back to the 5.53s and she was as sweet as a nut again. So, if I had gone by what others had said (don't use them, they are rubbish) I would never have discovered the joy of long range accuracy in that rifle.

By all means ask what other people hav efound. I have never washed or lubed a pellet in my life. Listening to the results others have had on here, now, I might give it a go, purely out of interest. I won't make my mind up straight away either.There might be a little tweak that suddenly makes it all come good - there is no quick fix and often something that really will work has to be worked at to find out just how it needs to be to get the best. That I think is why, once I have reliable accuracy without even weighing the pellets, just lifting them out of the pouch, I haven't gone in search of a problem to fix!

So, for you, give it a go - a GOOD go. Try with a clean barrel (look it up! Plenty on here about dos and don'ts) then try washing only (and you need to give it 200 pellets to have any kind of idea as to the effect it may be having) then try the same pellets lubed...then try different pellets, washed and lubed. OR, just pick the rifle up and get out there and shoot the thing with what you have. PRACTISE is going to make a lot more difference than any pellet preparation.

[Mike1]

You can't be CERTAIn that something will work in your rifle combo simply because it works in others. What other people have found might give you a pointer as to whether it is worth a try or no, but nothing is certain.

Fully agree with all of your answer and couldn't put it any better.
Your point about head size is another interesting area. I read somewhere that British barrels liked bigger heads and German smaller due the origination of barrels from imperial or metric sizes. That would make some sense but I also have heard of barrels where the opposite is true.
If your interested in pellet performance you may be interested in the articles on 'Pellet Weighing' and 'Why Test' both found on the Blog here: http://pelletperfect.co.uk/

Mike

[Bowser]

Ok then i'll bite. Just spent a massive £10 on evilbay to procure a battery powered sonic cleaner and 25ml of napier power lube. Will let you know next week how it all goes. See if ultra cleaned and lubed pellets makes any difference to me. Oh and I've tried napiers pre lubed powa pellets before. They shot fine but were very dirty to handle, proper filthy.

[PAUL1986]

About 20-30 or until your groups have settled.



It really doesn't matter to me if you lube or not. Most on here are prepared to share experiences and gain knowledge, and keep an open mind. You can never be sure what will be the effect of an action from 1 gun to another. The problem with airguns are there are many variables. What works in my 97 may not work in yours. For instance mine prefers 7.9 Mosquitos which are no longer avaiable and the nearest I have found so far is JSB 7.9, elsewhere you said yours prefers AA 8.4? is that because yours has done 1000? pellets and mine 30,000? or is it because we have different trigger adjustments, stocks, hold, experience, shooting position, shooting conditions etc. etc. Even when you have tried something, another variable may change and may result in a different effect. All part of the fun

I never said that mine prefered AA fields, just that those were the pellets the guy in the shop I bought the rifle from used to run it over the chrono.
it is all part of the fun, and long may it continue

[PAUL1986]

I may give it a try at some point, but for now I am concentrating more on getting the rifle settled in before I start worrying about any other variables.

[waspman]

thank you both very much for your prompt reply, now my mind is at ease .marrow.

I do the same (small ziplock bags) and it works well. I tested Crossman accupells in normal condition, washed condition and washed and lubed condition and I've got to say that the latter (washed and lubed) were much tighter groups.